Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The Bottom 20% Do Almost No Work, and You Pay for Them: How the Low-Income Bracket Drains Taxpayer Dollars
Gateway Pundit ^ | 06/18/2024 | Antonio Graceffo

Posted on 06/18/2024 5:29:41 AM PDT by Bon of Babble

When you pay taxes, remember that the bottom 20% of income earners do almost no work, do not pay taxes, and receive government aid. The next lowest 20% pay minimal taxes but also receive government support.

(Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: taxes; welfare
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-63 next last
To: faithhopecharity

The income tax was originally imposed with the idea that only the very wealthy would owe it—and of course it migrated more broadly from there.

The issue is that the Feds do 4 to 5 times what they are supposed to do—and that costs 4 to 5 times more than it should.


21 posted on 06/18/2024 6:01:24 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Bon of Babble

In 2001, Rumsfeld went on national TV and talked about how $2.3T in defense spending is unaccounted for. I see stories like this and I think, “You know, if I’m angry at the poor or lazy, I won’t be thinking about the real money being stolen in real time.”

$2.3T is a lot of money in 2001. It’s probably double that in 2024 dollars? Plus, how much more is gone?


22 posted on 06/18/2024 6:03:14 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: C210N

No taxes on tips is unfortunate coming from Trump, however, as it would be a huge tax break for big employers of tip-compensated employees, such as those working at many Trump properties.


23 posted on 06/18/2024 6:03:16 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Bon of Babble

Squeeze out a few welfare babies who will never know who dad is,
Apply for SSI for the kids over and over and over and over and over and over until they get approved for having ADHD or behavior problems,
Max out on food stamps,
Move into free section 8 housing with energy assistance,
file bogus self-employment on your taxes to get a sweet EITC check every year,
In your ample free time, squeeze out more welfare babies

It’s a living


24 posted on 06/18/2024 6:03:50 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Bon of Babble

Partially true, and partially not.

You only get the earned income tax credit if have SOME income, therefor those who get the earned income tax credit did do SOME work. And you can get the earned income tax credit without having dependents, and in that not also getting any child tax credit.

The other category both the tax rules and the idea behind this article miss is that there are all sorts of people, millions possibly, illegal aliens among them, who get cash unreported income. They work and are paid by someone, in cash, either by the job, or daily, weekly or monthly even, with no record of it sent to the IRS. They are part of the economy but their data is not in any official tax numbers. The IRS has used a number of methods to estimate the unreported income. It’s huge, about $500 billion. One question is, how draconian would Federal laws and regulations become to catch all cash income, and no natter the financial result would we like the legal result. The quandary almost makes you want to go for a national sales tax, an idea I have personally never liked.


25 posted on 06/18/2024 6:27:04 AM PDT by Wuli
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sicon

...and/or compliant victims of the ‘true pandemic’.

(i.e., ‘stupid’)


26 posted on 06/18/2024 6:28:08 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: faithhopecharity

I’m paying off a tax bill, my penalty for working hard and trying to earn more.

This system is broken. FedGov spends with careless indifference, pallets of cash sent overseas for nothing that serves Americans. It is insulting.

Whatever the alternative solution is to fund our government (national sales tax or whatever) the FIRST thing that MUST happen is cutting spending HARSHLY.


27 posted on 06/18/2024 6:29:07 AM PDT by Made In The USA (Ellen Ate Dynamite Good Bye Ellen)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Bon of Babble

“Democrats are happy with the arrangement b/c those who pay no taxes is their solid voting base.”

***************

Voting is all that’s required of them to tap into endless government largesse. Permanent access to the treasury as it were.


28 posted on 06/18/2024 6:35:13 AM PDT by Starboard
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Skooz

Don’t forget the opioid pills that Medicaid pays for that you can sell and get high from.


29 posted on 06/18/2024 6:35:15 AM PDT by brianl703
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: faithhopecharity

“what a f***ing ripoff!!!
...
corrupt as all HELL!”

[Crack!]

Put that yoke back on! Eyes straight ahead. No talking.

There’s $40T of debt payment to make. You think that’s going to get done with Free Speech and art exhibits?


30 posted on 06/18/2024 6:36:36 AM PDT by Justa (Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Bon of Babble

About 18% of the population is retired and collecting Social Security, and this will rise to 23% in the next 2 years. Quite a few of them have low incomes.


31 posted on 06/18/2024 6:38:47 AM PDT by proxy_user
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Wuli
The quandary almost makes you want to go for a national sales tax, an idea I have personally never liked.

I totally agree

National sales tax is a horrible idea.

You would need a Constitutional amendment to make it work because you would have to repeal the income tax amendment or you can bet that you would end up with the sales tax and the income tax.

I also believe that it is immoral to force employers to collect taxes as a consequence of doing business.

32 posted on 06/18/2024 6:40:53 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: faithhopecharity
the country managed to get by OKAY for its first 140 years without a federal income tax and a much smaller and less powerful central government, which didn't try to exercise control over every aspect of the Citizens' lives.
33 posted on 06/18/2024 6:40:57 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Bon of Babble
Looks like it was written by a high school student who couldn't even be bothered to google actual data:

There is a claim that while low-income households may not contribute significantly to federal income taxes, they do contribute to other forms of taxation such as payroll taxes, sales taxes, and property taxes on their homes. However, these arguments are easily refuted.

The Social Security contributions of the low-income group are minimal because they earn less money and work less frequently. Middle-income and high-income groups pay more into Social Security, with the maximum contribution occurring at an income of $168,000.

34 posted on 06/18/2024 6:41:49 AM PDT by edwinland
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Bon of Babble

Where in the Constitution does it say that Caucasian Americans are responsible for supporting freeloading foreigners looking for a free ride they refer to as “a better life.”


35 posted on 06/18/2024 6:41:49 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (When did WE decide to make America a UN 5-Star Asylum Paradise for Socialist losers?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Poser
They do pay sales tax, gas tax, property tax, tolls, and fees with money from their welfare checks.

The rest of us pay those things out of our pay checks.

There's a big difference between a welfare check and a pay check.

Perhaps you've noticed?

36 posted on 06/18/2024 6:43:06 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Bon of Babble

Two words: Birth Control. We could solve this problem within a generation if we give higher benefits in exchange for sterilization. Time to cull the herd - it’s not just the case that our native born underclass doesn’t want to work it’s also that when they are hired they do a crap job.


37 posted on 06/18/2024 6:47:28 AM PDT by Clemenza
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Wuli

There is a HUGE, untaxed cash economy in California - construction workers, illegal or not, are paid in cash - this keeps them eligible for government benefits - and also gets them out of paying child support - a local lawyer told me they now send agents out to the work sites to collect child support payments straight from the foreman, that is the only way they could get it.

I also live around a lot of Eastern Europeans and they always ask for cash - for tires, for catering (got a 20% discount plus free desserts for paying cash), for haircuts - I had an expensive fence put around my property, the owner of the company asked for payment in cash, which I did, saved me the state sales tax, which is over 10% around here.

California also has the highest percentage of welfare recipients of any state - as productive citizens and businesses flee the state - this is not sustainable.


38 posted on 06/18/2024 7:05:48 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Poser

They rent so no property tax on residence and most have expired vehicle tags so not paying it on their cars either.


39 posted on 06/18/2024 7:17:38 AM PDT by edhawk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; bitt; ...

p


40 posted on 06/18/2024 7:17:59 AM PDT by bitt (<img src=' 'width=30%>)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-63 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson