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To: AbolishCSEU; Rockingham; Tired of Taxes; metmom; Alberta's Child; fwdude
The author can’t do basic research. Divorce became a problem long before the 60s.

The progressive era and the advent of socialism brought on by the Depression got that started. Marriage became disposable…it is reversible, it can be undone. It’s caustic to women, and quoth Marx and Engels, “(t)he bourgeois sees his wife as a mere instrument of production. He hears that the instruments of production are to be exploited in common, and, naturally, can come to no other conclusion than that the lot of being common to all will likewise fall to the women.”

Don’t worry son or daughter….you don’t need to do much discernment because you can always lawyer up like mom and dad did. Oh, and friends and family will happily applaud like a circus seal if you dump your spouse. There are Facebook groups and all kinds of social outlets geared toward starting life anew. Indeed, half of your friends and family are also in a state of mortal sin-it’s not like they’ll tell you to save your soul and work out the problem.

Then we have “research” showing that the kids turn out ok because they don’t see Mom and Dad fighting, that single parenthood can be good for the kids self-esteem, and other nonsense.

Marriage isn’t considered an irreversible bond in our culture anymore. The Commandments are no longer binding. Going to hell for sex outside of marriage is a figment of the imagination. God will forgive you; actually God is a woman…

Sure…and the shots are safe and effective. Marx and Engels are smiling in hell.

I get that some spouses are tough, and there is mental illness and substance abuse. Guess what? That all existed prior to 1934. Divorce was shameful. It was a one-way ticket to hell. People worked out their problems. The same mindset that says “I’m against divorce except for cases of ____” is the same demonic mindset that says “I’m against abortion except in cases of _____.”

Divorce is THE most destructive element to the family and society….more than the gays, more than Ukraine, more than Soros. It is clear, yet few rail against divorce anymore.

Changing the law is a band aid solution. We need to get people into a pre-1934 marriage mindset. From there, children can grow up in a home that isn’t lead by hypocrites, where religion is seen as VITAL as opposed to a buffet where they can pick and choose morality.

16 posted on 06/18/2024 4:29:13 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s² )
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To: DoodleBob

changing the law to making divorce harder is NOT a band aid solution…it is essential and must be done


20 posted on 06/18/2024 4:35:43 AM PDT by impimp ( )
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To: DoodleBob

God invented divorce. It is in the Bible. The reason for divorce is so the spouses don’t kill each other. I say this as a former divorce lawyer.


23 posted on 06/18/2024 4:46:12 AM PDT by yldstrk ( )
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To: DoodleBob
My parents went through five cases of divorce combined. They split the two kids: my brother stayed with mom and I went with Dad. He sued for full custody. The legal battle over child custody went on for nine years and cost my dad two San Francisco Bay Area houses. It him a broken man, spiritually and financially. It broke my relationship with my mom between the ages of 11 and 27. My relationship with my brother is still irreparable.

I'm wondering whether we need two tiers of "divorce," one when children are involved and one for everything else, including gay contracts. It wouldn't have changed anything for our family, but it would make the true purpose of marriage and its attendant level of commitment clearer. Counseling is a lot cheaper than lawyers.

43 posted on 06/18/2024 5:42:56 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: DoodleBob; All

“No fault” divorce isn’t the problem. It simply allows people to divorce without sharing all the sordid details in court. People shouldn’t be locked into bad marriages because they cannot afford the legal cost.

The real problem is there’s no penalty for the spouse who broke up the marriage.

You break up your marriage when you either (1) abandon your spouse, (2) commit adultery, or (3) purposely put your spouse in danger. (As a side note, I would argue that committing adultery is putting your spouse in danger.)

But, the courts ignore those factors. So, the court will award alimony to a spouse who cheated. The court will order you to pay half of the debt your spouse hid from you. And so on.

That’s the real problem with divorce today. That’s the problem people should want to fix.

A spouse who cheated shouldn’t be entitled to alimony or child custody. A spouse who divorces because he or she is bored with the marriage (abandonment) shouldn’t be entitled to alimony or child custody, either.


59 posted on 06/18/2024 6:50:06 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: DoodleBob

Great graphic - having done quite a bit of genealogy, I find an amazing number of divorces in very rural communities from about 1900 through the Depression. Perhaps a more established judicial presence that was more responsive to the drunken husbands/adulterous wives (seems to be the usual formula back then)


64 posted on 06/18/2024 7:46:29 AM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: DoodleBob
Few rail against divorce anymore because they know these people shouldn't have married in the first place.

Divorce isn't the problem, it's a symptom.

81 posted on 06/18/2024 9:24:42 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: DoodleBob
I get that some spouses are tough, and there is mental illness and substance abuse. Guess what? That all existed prior to 1934.

Prior to 1934, so did shooting your abusing spouse and burying him/her in the lower forty, without witnesses. Or moving across the country and starting new as a “widow”, a “bachelor” or a “widower.“

89 posted on 06/18/2024 2:33:50 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: DoodleBob

My Dad married as soon as he got back from WW2. Three weeks later, he moved out. A few months later, he pled guilty to “mental abuse” or something like that so they could get divorced. They remained friends.

I never met her. My Mom did. Said she was a nice woman but she and my Dad had changed during the previous 3 years and they both realized it just a little late.

My Mom and Dad were married until he died in Vietnam near the end of the war.


100 posted on 06/18/2024 4:03:59 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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