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Supreme Court strikes down Trump's ban on bump stocks
CNN ^ | June 14, 2024 | John Fritze

Posted on 06/14/2024 1:49:44 PM PDT by Trump20162020

The Supreme Court on Friday struck down a federal ban on bump stocks approved by former President Donald Trump, the latest opinion from the conservative court rolling back firearm regulations.

Justice Clarence Thomas wrote the opinion for a 6-3 court. The court’s liberal wing, led by Justice Sonia Sotomayor, dissented.

Trump had pushed for the ban in response to a 2017 mass shooting that killed 58 people at an outdoor music festival in Las Vegas. Bump stocks allow a shooter to convert a semi-automatic rifle into a weapon that can fire at a rate of hundreds of rounds a minute.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: bumpstock; bumpstocks; donaldtrump; scotus; supremecourt; trump
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To: Hot Tabasco

So he caved to ATF.


21 posted on 06/14/2024 2:47:26 PM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: Codeflier

See post #17


22 posted on 06/14/2024 2:50:05 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: CA Conservative

TX for the clarification.


23 posted on 06/14/2024 2:50:40 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: maddog55
So he caved to ATF.

Nope, I was wrong. See Post #17

24 posted on 06/14/2024 2:51:05 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Magnum44

So, it seems that Congress can throw up roadblocks to ownership as long as a law-abiding citizen can eventually own a regulated gun or gun accessory.

I can own a Tommy Gun if I want to, but I need a lot of paperwork and patience.


25 posted on 06/14/2024 2:52:51 PM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill (Wind energy windmills remove the energy from the wind, which causes global warming.)
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To: Codeflier

Oh yeah the Vegas shooting.
Good thing we know who the shooter was and what justice was meted out to him.
sarc!


26 posted on 06/14/2024 2:55:52 PM PDT by Texas resident (Biden=Obama=Jarrett=Soros)
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To: DSH
Quite correct. In my experience, almost everyone who insists on viewing the world through an ideological and/or partisan lens is rarely open even to considering facts that contradicts, or even shed doubt on, their own interior narrative.

Best post of the day!

27 posted on 06/14/2024 2:59:29 PM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater & Thomas Sowell in 2024)
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To: Codeflier

You left out the part about Trump’s court overturning the ban.


28 posted on 06/14/2024 3:02:44 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Hot Tabasco

I’m going to need to see an org chart.


29 posted on 06/14/2024 3:03:18 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (My boss wants me to sign up for a 401K. No way I'm running that far! )
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To: thegagline; DSH

See my tagline as well. I will not sacrifice my principles or convictions just to be a useful idiot for some untrustworthy politician. And they’re pretty much ALL untrustworthy. Best to call them out, and replace them ASAP, to get some new blood who will do a decent job at least at first.


30 posted on 06/14/2024 3:08:59 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Principles, not partisanship)
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To: Trump20162020

The courts have told the ATF to go sit in the corner a lot recently.


31 posted on 06/14/2024 3:14:04 PM PDT by TonyM (Score Event)
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To: Codeflier

Orange man....
Baaad


32 posted on 06/14/2024 3:19:00 PM PDT by BAN-ONE
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To: Hot Tabasco

Has no bearing on my vote. Just looking for accuracy of the history. No one is perfect.


33 posted on 06/14/2024 3:19:57 PM PDT by Codeflier (Don't worry....be happy)
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To: Magnum44

My thought was it was gun control, it affected the least number of people, Trump went about it ham handed, knowing (hoping) it would be struck down. Then he could shrug, smile and say, “Well, we tried” to the grabbers.


34 posted on 06/14/2024 3:20:24 PM PDT by BudgieRamone (Everybody loves a bonk on the head)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Nope, I was wrong. See Post #17

That NBC News report lands squarely in "Cool story, bro" territory. One can only wonder why they ran with it.

The underlying assertion -- i.e., that Trump acted with intention in having the BATF produce the revised regulation that re-defined "machinegun" to include a semiautomatic rifle with a bump stock, with the confident expectation that the Supreme Court would eventually overturn this new regulatory definition -- is the height of fantasy.

In the first place, there could have been no assurance at all, at the time the BATF promulgated the revised regulation, that any subsequent challenge to the regulation would ever make it to the Supreme Court. Indeed, as the Court made clear in its decision today, it granted certiorari in the case in order to resolve a Circuit split: i.e., in previously decided cases, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit had held that the BATF's revised definition of "machinegun" was not authorized by the National Firearms Act of 1934, while the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit had held the exact opposite. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit, ruling on a request for an injunction, held that the party bringing a challenge to the BATF's revised definition was "unlikely to succeed on the merits."

As for the litigation below in the Cargill case itself, the U.S District Court had upheld the BATF's revised definition, and, on review, a panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit initially affirmed the District Court's ruling. Thereafter, however, on rehearing en banc, the full Fifth Circuit reversed the panel's decision and found that the BATF's revised definition was contrary to the language of the National Firearms Act.

Given this history, and given that other Courts of Appeals had landed in different places, it seems evident that, on the merits, this was actually a pretty close call, as a matter of statutory interpretation. In light of this, that Trump did what he did, in the confident expectation that his cynical (if, perhaps, politically adroit) ploy would turn out the way it did, is rather too incredible to credit.

Again, I don't know what NBC News intends by the tale it has spun out here, but this story reeks of fake news.

35 posted on 06/14/2024 3:34:52 PM PDT by DSH
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To: BAN-ONE

That’s not may attitude at all. There is room for improvement. Mistakes were made. Hopefully, better next time. The handling of COVID and turning his presidency over to Fauci was the biggest mistake of all.


36 posted on 06/14/2024 4:18:34 PM PDT by Codeflier (Don't worry....be happy)
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To: Trump20162020

So Trump does the wrong thing to make liberals happy and now they are trying to make Trump look bad for helping them. Typical back stabbing liberals. I hope that Trump learns a lesson from this.


37 posted on 06/14/2024 5:10:52 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Hot Tabasco; Codeflier

Here is the video, watch it. Trump was a dumpster fire.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?441884-1/white-house-meeting-community-school-safety

He advocated taking guns with no due process, his actual quote was, “Take the guns first, go through due process second”. He advocated expanded background checks. He was going to ban bump stocks (and he did). He supported raising the age to buy any gun to 21. It was a disaster.

He is a rich New Yorker, he knows nothing about guns, hunting, american history, the constitution, the need for self defense. Completely out of touch with the second amendment.


38 posted on 06/14/2024 6:32:46 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: Trump20162020

I know a guy who turned in an unused bargain cave bump stock for $150. Turned that $150 into a Polymer 80. True story. Not joking.


39 posted on 06/14/2024 6:34:37 PM PDT by rickomatic
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To: Codeflier; Hot Tabasco

Exactly. Trump wasn’t pushed into anything regarding gun control. He apparently liked the gun control that Diane Feinstein was selling back in 2018.

He seems to have changed his opinion since then.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-dianne-feinstein-erupt-with-glee-after-trump-seems-to-endorse-her-assault-weapons-ban/


40 posted on 06/14/2024 7:07:41 PM PDT by chickenlips (Neuter your politicians)
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