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Bragg ‘usurped’ federal law to charge Trump, FEC commissioner says
Washington Examiner ^ | June 13, 2024 3:58 pm | Ashley Oliver

Posted on 06/13/2024 5:42:10 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

A member of the Federal Election Commission testified to Congress on Thursday that the Manhattan district attorney who led the prosecution of former President Donald Trump overstepped his authority.

Trey Trainor, a Trump-appointed commissioner who once served as FEC chairman, said during a hearing that District Attorney Alvin Bragg, an elected Democrat, inappropriately incorporated a federal election campaign law into his charges against Trump.

“Bragg has effectively usurped the jurisdiction that this Congress has explicitly reserved for federal authorities,” Trainor said during a House Judiciary Committee hearing. “This overreach sets a troubling precedent for politicization of legal proceedings at the state level.”

Trump was convicted of falsifying business records in the first degree, a charge that requires the defendant to have violated another law in addition to the falsification of records.

In Trump’s case, Bragg argued Trump also violated New York election law’s section 17-152. The statute states that it is against the law to conspire to influence an election “by unlawful means.”

Bragg gave the jury three options for what those unlawful means could have been. One of the options was that Trump violated the Federal Election Campaign Act. The other two options were additional falsifications of records or tax violations.

The jury did not have to agree on what unlawful means Trump used to violate section 17-152, only that he violated the overarching state law. In other words, some jurors could have decided Trump breached FECA to reach their guilty conclusion. The jurors did not have to document which of the three unlawful means options they chose to arrive at their guilty verdict, so there is no way to know if any of them used FECA.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: arrestalvinbragg; ashleyoliver; bananarepublic; bragg; electioninterference; fec; feca; hushmoneytrial; lawfare; newyork; sedition; treytrainor; trump; trumppersecution
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To: Political Junkie Too
Apparently NY law is such baloney that it assumes that the "second crime" can be the intent to illegally influence some election. This kind of legal sophistry makes my head hurt, and is extremely dangerous. It's hard to believe an ethical prosecutor or judge would use it. More power than a good man should want, or a bad man should have.
21 posted on 06/13/2024 10:44:09 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
it assumes that the "second crime" can be the intent to...

I know.

Not only did Merchan violate President Trump's fifth amendment due process rights by letting the jury presume guilt on that "second crime," he even made it a thought crime by criminalizing "intent."

It's like arresting someone for shoplifting because they might have been thinking about stealing something but chickened out at the last minute. There is no proof that the person ever considered shoplifting, they might have just been price comparison shopping without intending to purchase that day.

-PJ

22 posted on 06/13/2024 10:50:59 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Trey Trainor, a Trump-appointed commissioner who once served as FEC chairman, said during a hearing that District Attorney Alvin Bragg, an elected Democrat, inappropriately incorporated a federal election campaign law into his charges against Trump.

Duh! And water is wet.

23 posted on 06/14/2024 12:08:25 AM PDT by matt04 ( )
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To: Political Junkie Too; CraigEsq
Brookings Institute praises Merchan in the trial, claims it was not Kafka-esque(!) but rather perfectly normal, etc

"If the law supposes that, the law is a ass." - Charles Dickens

24 posted on 06/14/2024 1:27:14 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
he was convicted on 34 counts of violating New York Penal Law § 175.10, which makes it a felony to cause the entry of a business record that is falsified to commit, aid, or conceal another crime. (The other crime is called the “object offense.”)...

Here’s a nice example of where reporting on the trial went sideways. After Justice Merchan instructed the jury, Fox News correspondent John Roberts hastily tweeted that jurors need not “agree on the crime” and that “4 could agree on one crime, 4 on a different one, and the other 4 on another.” But Roberts had failed to appreciate the distinction between the elements of a § 175.10 offense and the “unlawful means” of carrying out a § 17-152 conspiracy. Right-wing media went berserk, and the mischaracterization polluted even mainstream commentary. In a piece published shortly after the convictions, for example, George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley inaccurately stated that “Merchan allowed the jury to find that the secondary offense was any of the three vaguely defined options.” But Justice Merchan did instruct the jury that it had to find the object offense beyond a reasonable doubt. Turley just confused the object offense with the unlawful means by which a defendant might carry it out.

But the indictments were for falsifying business records in furtherance of another crime, not for the other crime itself. If Bragg didn't even reveal what the other crime was (the "object offense") until his closing arguments, then how can the jury even review evidence of this other crime? How was the defendant supposed to cross-examine this other crime? How can Merchan instruct the jury to deliberate a crime that was never indicted nor evidence presented?

How can this jury deliberate, say, federal election violations when it's not even their legal jurisdiction to do so? Even state campaign funding violations are beyond the scope of Merchan's court, and yet he charged the jury with deliberating it!

I also think this author fails to appreciate that his so-called "conspiracy" is unproven and uncharged. The indictments were for falsifying business records; the furtherance of another crime is what was alleged, it was supposed, and then it became assumed to be true, and finally Trump was presumed to be guilty of it.

What is Kafkaesque is this author's complacency with the presumption of guilt in the United States (a violation of the fifth amendment due process clause), along with wholesale violations of Trump's sixth amendment rights as being "Extraordinary Ordinariness."

-PJ

25 posted on 06/14/2024 1:58:58 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Not that anything will happen to this fat tub of sh## because hes black, would like to see him grilled in a congressional hearing


26 posted on 06/14/2024 3:09:50 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

So this does make the malfeasance that Braggart employed a FEDERAL violation. SCOTUS, do your duty.


27 posted on 06/14/2024 3:36:47 AM PDT by Shady (The Force of Liberty must prevail for the sake of our Children and Grandchildren...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

America is receiving a lesson in how the law is applied and to whom the law applies.


28 posted on 06/14/2024 3:44:22 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Oh. He “testified to Congress”. I feel much better now, knowing that everything will be made right. Because it always happens after someone testifies to Congress.


29 posted on 06/14/2024 4:45:37 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Navarro didn't kill himself.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Bragg and that damnable judge should BOTH be disbarred and never be allowed to participate in a legal proceding again.


30 posted on 06/14/2024 5:08:27 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim (Plunk your magic twanger, Froggy!)
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To: Political Junkie Too
I plagiarized your argument (without posting your identity, which I don't really know anyway. I used only my Twitter ID) on X/Twitter:

What is Kafkaesque is this author's complacency with the presumption of guilt in the United States (a violation of the fifth amendment due process clause), along with wholesale violations of Trump's sixth amendment rights as being "Extraordinary Ordinariness.— Thomas Peebles (@Peeb66573Thomas) June 14, 2024


31 posted on 06/14/2024 7:01:16 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: FroggyTheGremlim
disbarred

You misspelled "hanged" (after fair trial unlike this one).

32 posted on 06/14/2024 8:28:35 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Inter arma enim silent leges! - Cicero )
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To: AndyTheBear
What about Matthew Colangelo? He architected the whole thing.

33 posted on 06/14/2024 8:36:48 AM PDT by Tommy Revolts (,,)
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To: Organic Panic

“And that’s why that commie tyrant Merchan forbade any defense witnesses.”
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That’s not entirely correct - Trump did have some defense witnesses. However, he specifically did not allow this particular guy to testify as to his expertise, which is in federal election law, as applied to the facts of this case. All he was going to permit this guy to do was to read the law. A fifth grader could do that. I would think that this act alone, of not allowing Trump to present an effective defense, in and of itself represents substantial constitutional error that would justify overturning every single one of the 34 bogus convictions.


34 posted on 06/14/2024 9:50:54 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (Paul Weiss )
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To: Political Junkie Too

…and even if they intended and even planned to shoplift, there is no crime until someone makes an overt act in furtherance of that crime, such as concealing an item on one’s person.


35 posted on 06/14/2024 9:58:28 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (Paul Weiss )
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
I'm good with that. I've seen unattributed phrases of mine appear in published punditry weeks after my postings over the years.

Spread the word...

-PJ

36 posted on 06/14/2024 11:28:20 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

Thanks for your verbal contribution for our side of the argument. Well said. If I knew who you are in real life, it might be dangerous for you if I had attributed your text. I have worn my “Voting for the convicted felon” t-shirt in the flesh at 2 chess clubs where I live. I know for a fact that not all the chess players have the same sentiment, but none of them hassled me.


37 posted on 06/14/2024 12:58:48 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
I'm not on any social media platforms. I don't count FR as social media; to me it's a modernized BBS.

-PJ

38 posted on 06/14/2024 1:10:49 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too; Ancesthntr

I have always been uncomfortable with convictions based on mind reading. Sometimes the court has to make a judgment based on supposed intent, like police shooting a suspect. But it seems insane to me to convict Trump using the supposition of intention to interfere in an election, based on mind reading, because there was no victim.


39 posted on 06/14/2024 1:15:11 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
The whole notion of "interfering with an election" when you're one of the two major candidates is the problem. The very definition of politics is influencing the outcome of an election.

If Watergate was "influencing an election by illegal means" by burgling the DNC headquarters to discover their election strategies, that's one thing. But running an oppo research campaign on your competitor, or suppressing negative stories about yourself, or running negative ads about your opponent? That's not illegal and Bragg is trying to criminalize what used to be called "dirty tricks" and "October surprises."

-PJ

40 posted on 06/14/2024 1:21:21 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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