Posted on 06/12/2024 10:49:34 PM PDT by ganeemead
The meat grinder/organ harvesting link...
That is funny right there, I don’t care who you are, that’s funny.
This might have made sense to you, but what are you taking about? Please explain we did in WWII and the Cold War that Ukraine is doing now.
Are you trying to say that our United states and European allies for the past eighty years have setup orphanages and baby mills to traffic children to the highest bidder, and hospitals where our military and POWs had their organs harvested to sell on the black market?
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Ukraine has a DARK secret and Ukrainian families are DEMANDING answers , Rockingham wrote: Those opposing US and NATO assistance to Ukraine too often pick up dodgy accusations and distort bits of information to make their argument.
NATO is bad news, alongside the World Health Organization, the UN, and WEF. All are unelected elites drawing the world into their clutches in the belief they know how the world should be ruled. Russia is a super power in their way as they through beaurocratic means, navigate toward dominion.
This lapse of intellectual discipline can lead even good and wise people like Steve Bannon and Archbishop Vigano into bad company, weak reasoning, and name calling that subverts their credibility and can make them sound at times like foaming at the mouth lunatics.
I don't listen to Bannon's podcasts, but given I have read alot of truth from Vigano by now, I know what you imply of him is false. It's curious you would even think of portraying him as prone to weak reasoning, yet defend NATO/Zelensky's reasoning indirectly.
Is Ukraine a perfect country with perfect people? Of course not, and countries at war tolerate bad things, do bad things, and routinely make expedient compromises that contradict their ideals.
One doesn't have to be perfect in order to reject child trafficking in organ harvesting. Those evils permeate the world, but sadly there are elements of the Ukraine which glory in it. The Azov Nazi military has since been integrated with the Ukraine's national guard - that's a hint of the problem in the Ukraine.
During WW II and the Cold War, the US did much of what Ukraine is now accused of doing. That is the nature of war, with bad things, lies, and folly abounding.
It's as if you don't recall Burisma or the countless ways in which the DNC, and Biden crime family wallow in money laundering, fraud etc. When President Trump asked Zelensky to investigate the Biden family crimes there, Zelensky declined. Why? Because our CIA helped overthrow the Ukraine in 2014 and has installed a series of officials there since that time. The corruption and evil in the Ukraine is oppressing many citizens. President Trump has said that the Ukraine is among the most corrupt countries in the world, he diden't say 'well they aren't perfect' or excuse their horrors as natural war time excesses. The Ukraine is at present, a cesspool.
Have no doubt about it though, Putin and Russia are our enemy, and Ukraine is a useful and worthy ally against them.
If the Ukraine had actually been a useful and worthy ally, they would have rejected the money laundering and criminality they engage in with the CIA, Bidens, Schumers, Pelosis etc. The Ukraine has been and still is the 'worthy ally' of the Deep State's DNC. Those who have subverted the United States government treat the Ukraine as their crime hub. We haven't even gotten to the biowarfare labs there, and the fact that the Bidens own a lab there. No - there's no worthy ally in the Ukraine.
PUtin is putting Russia first. Trump puts America first. The Ukraine is a rare event in which American and Russian interests both benefit from the destruction of the CIA operated crime hub in the Ukraine.
Russia and America both benefit if the NATO power grab is defeated as it allows our nations to remain separate and sovereign. In other ways, Russia and America seek separate objectives, and they can be in direct opposition, but both our countries benefit by Putin's current resolve to eliminate the stronghold the deep state has on the Ukraine, as do the innocent citizens there.
For those unaware of the epic levels of US corruption taking place in the Ukraine, the following is a thread which identifies some of the sources, and below it I will put some links from it.
Here are tip-of-the-iceberg details provided by Ukrainian investigators which address Burisma, Bidens, State Department and corruption. There's been no justice and no halt to the saturated embrace of crime in the Ukraine.
PART IV is at the link near the bottom of the thread post.
Did you vote for the stumblebum in 2020??
You have got to be kidding. I am and have consistently and resolutely been for Trump since the start. And I have a Republican, populist conservative pedigree that likely goes back to before you were born.
(Thank you)
And yet you view nazis as friends and Christians as enemies??
That is silly and false — and I am sure that you know it.
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