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California ‘clean energy’ company set to bulldoze more than 3,500 Joshua trees, so coastal homes can go ‘carbon neutral’
American Thinker ^ | 06/04/21024 | Olivia Murray

Posted on 06/04/2024 2:57:06 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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The project consists of a solar array with a solar generation capacity of up to 530 MWac and an up to 600 MWac battery energy storage system.


1 posted on 06/04/2024 2:57:06 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“Brave New World” it is.


2 posted on 06/04/2024 3:00:36 PM PDT by Qwapisking ("IF the Second goes first the First goes second" L.Star )
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To: SeekAndFind

Cover the Earth with solar panels and wind turbines.

Sounds very environmental.


3 posted on 06/04/2024 3:00:59 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Where are all of the liberal tree huggers?


4 posted on 06/04/2024 3:01:35 PM PDT by caver ( )
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Where’s Bono to save the Joshua Trees?


5 posted on 06/04/2024 3:04:05 PM PDT by bassmaner (He y commies: I'm a white male, and guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere!)
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To: SeekAndFind

If they built in between the trees, the trees would vaporize from the heat. Though there really is no shortage of empty desert outside of the Joshua tree habitat.


6 posted on 06/04/2024 3:05:37 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: SeekAndFind

Batteries to be “carbon neutral?”

Are they kidding me?


7 posted on 06/04/2024 3:06:54 PM PDT by Red6
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From the linked article of the company doing the Aratina Solar Center:

The project consists of a solar array with a solar generation capacity of up to 530 MWac and an up to 600 MWac battery energy storage system...

They show their ignorance. Yes, solar production is stated in Watts or multiples thereof (i.e. kilowatts and megawatts). But storage is in watts/time (i.e. watthours, kilowatt hours kWh, megawatt hours mWh). Without the time component for storage it's meaningless.

It's like talking about the flow rate of your water house in GPM (gallons per minute), then talking about the volume of the bucket you fill with the water house (i.e. 2 gallon bucket). Just like water volume has different units from flow rate, solar production has different units from battery storage.

8 posted on 06/04/2024 3:10:57 PM PDT by Tell It Right (Galatians 6:14 -- May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ...)
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IF THOSE TREES ARE PROTECTED-—HOW IS THIS HAPPENING????

I KNOW THE DESERT TORTOISE IS VERY PROTECTED


9 posted on 06/04/2024 3:13:26 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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If some of you are not sure, these are Joshua Trees:


10 posted on 06/04/2024 3:20:47 PM PDT by Rio
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“600 MWac”

While I’ve never seen “MWac”, I guess it means Megawatts after conversion to AC...rather than at the battery level.

As to using something like Megawatts for storage, I think that means the amount of power a battery bank can provide (provided its not burning up) for 4 HOURS. So 2400 Megawatt-hours, in this case. But no way to be sure - and the IDIOT REPORTERS who think this is the greatest thing since sliced bread are TOTALLY CLUELESS as to what they’re reporting, since, “Math is Hard” or they wouldn’t be ‘reporters’.


11 posted on 06/04/2024 3:21:37 PM PDT by BobL
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

In perhaps ten years, or even less, these grotesque monuments of misplaced concern for the “sustainable” environment shall be standing abandoned and useless, a major blight on the landscape, and a burden to to be removed at great public expense. The windmills will stand like giant ghostly sentinels watching over the folly of bad engineering and worse economic policy, until perhaps centuries from now the concrete and steel in their structure shall crumble and they have become a rubble pile.

The mischief knaves make lasts far beyond their lifetimes, and only leaves a negative impact on whatever this mischief touches.


12 posted on 06/04/2024 3:32:19 PM PDT by alloysteel (Most people slog through life without ever knowing the wonders of true insanity.)
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To: caver

The hypocrisy is breathtaking….


13 posted on 06/04/2024 3:37:21 PM PDT by Man from Oz
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To: ridesthemiles

Aren’t those trees thousands of years old?


14 posted on 06/04/2024 3:59:10 PM PDT by HYPOCRACY (Brandon's pronouns: Xi/Hur)
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To: SeekAndFind

Democrats must destroy the environment to save the environment [actually to provide “clean” energy for rich people on the coast] ...


15 posted on 06/04/2024 4:06:43 PM PDT by catnipman (")
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To: SeekAndFind

Ridiculous...ala Solyndra????? How much money is that going to cost us? The feds involved?

Don’t ever forget - Biden was VP at the time of Solyndra and it was his responsibility to account for $$$ we put in and he did zip zero zilch...everyone got away scot-free with OUR money!


16 posted on 06/04/2024 4:13:18 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

According to their web-site, if they do not go along with this project, more Joshua trees will be destroyed by the global warming! So actually, they are saving the trees!

What a baloney!

Another point from the web site - the project will raise local temperature, but only in the nearby areas!

So they will raise the temperature, and kill the trees to save the trees and lower the temperature - Orwellian!


17 posted on 06/04/2024 4:39:05 PM PDT by AZJeep
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To: bassmaner

LOL! ISWYDT...


18 posted on 06/04/2024 5:01:10 PM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: SeekAndFind

A modern nuclear plant could do the same job in a fraction of the space, but NUKES!


19 posted on 06/04/2024 5:18:49 PM PDT by yawningotter
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To: SeekAndFind

Gotta destroy nature in order to save it.


20 posted on 06/04/2024 5:22:22 PM PDT by OKSooner (Divest from New York.)
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