Moderna and Pfizer In Talks With U.S. To Make a Bird Flu Vaccine

Moderna stock spiked in Wednesday trading, climbing 13.7% over the course of the day amid swelling concerns over the avian influenza outbreak in U.S. cattle...Moderna confirmed to Barron's that the company is in discussions with the federal government about "advancing our pandemic flu candidate." Pfizer did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

"i didn’t know anyone who died of Wuhan virus, either-no one I knew or worked was sicker with it than with any flu-we are all over 65 where I work, and unvaxxed. The only person I knew who died took his own life during a bitter and adversarial divorce."

I've been retired for 20 years, so don't interact with co-workers any longer. I go to the grocery store, and doctor appointments, visit my brother's family my two sons, and longtime friends. All of them took the shots, and some of them contracted Covid, and had symptoms when I had none.

The day before I tested positive for Covid the second time, I'd gone to the dentist to have my teeth cleaned. It was still when they were requiring a temperature check before letting you in. I had no temperature so they let me in. I was going to have cataract surgery, and had to be tested, so the next day I went to have a swab test. That night they called me and said they'd have to cancel the surgery because I tested positive.

That is weird-but I’ve known other people who tested positive and did not have any symptoms-I wonder if something was wrong with those tests...

I had the Wuhan virus in Spring of 2020, like a lot of other people I know did, but none of us were really very sick-natural remedies for flu got rid of it for me in about 4 days, and I haven’t had anything since. Given it was at the time when everyone was social distancing, masking up even outdoors, etc, I think those over-zealous precautions made people more likely to catch the wuflu, but that is just a theory.

I work for/with my best friend-he never intends to stop working, either-so I’m self-employed-and happy not to work on the clock anymore-but I’ll never stop working-I like to work outdoors and I like to make money, as well as needing it. I learned Spanish as a little kid at home-I’m Hispanic-so that is common in my family-my mom believed everyone’s education was improved by knowing a 2nd language-she was a HS Spanish teacher, too. I’ve been saying ay por favor-no esta mierda otra vez ever since I realized I could express my disbelief/annoyance at someone’s ignorance that way and as long as they did not know Spanish, I would not offend them...

"I wonder if something was wrong with those tests..."

That's always been my suspicion. The main reason I never got the shots was that they didn't even have an accurate test to detect Covid, so why should I take a shot for it. The son of a long-time friend worked with a guy who was feeling sick at the time of Covid. They tested both of them, and both tests were negative. The guy was still feeling sick, so they tested them again. Still both negative. It wasn't until the third test that both of them showed positive results. At the time, the family was planning their annual vacation together, and they weren't sure this son and his family would be able to join them. The doctor told her son that since he'd likely had Covid for a while, that by the time he tested positive, he likely wasn't infectious any longer, and told him to vacation with the rest of the family. Nobody in the large group contracted Covid on that vacation.

My friend's husband had never had blood pressure or heart problems, but developed those problems between 4-6 months after taking the shots. They were doing yard work one day, and she found him passed out. He woke up when she arrived at his side. He saw a doctor. They did tests, and told him he had 2-3 blockages. They put him in the hospital, and were going to put stents in to open the arteries using catheterization, but they ended up not being able to do it that way, so he ended up staying in the hospital until they could perform regular surgery to insert them. After he got home from the hospital, the medication they gave him wasn't keeping his pressure steady, and he ended back up in the hospital. He's doing well now, but he has to restrict himself on coffee, and other food to maintain his blood pressure. I never had the heart to ask them if they thought the shots might have caused his problems. They couldn't understand where the trouble came from, because like I said, he regularly saw his doctors, and nobody had ever mentioned a blood pressure issue previously. Those same friends, about a year later did test positive, and had symptoms, having contracted it from one of their other sons.

"my mom believed everyone’s education was improved by knowing a 2nd language-she was a HS Spanish teacher, too."

Your mom was right. I'm sorry I never learned a second language. I took a year of French in high school in the early 60's, but never pursued it. I had no plans to go to college anyway. I was just going to be someone's wife and have babies. Fast forward all those years, and I wish I'd taken Latin in high school when I had the chance, because I am a history nut, especially British history, and would love to be able to read documents from the medieval period. Most of them were in Latin, French or Old English, none of which I know.

My oldest son, now 56, took German in high school. After graduation, he and one of his friends flew overseas and visited friends from Holland and Germany that had been exchange students at their school. Year's later he got the travel bug, and so decided to take refresher courses in German. He finished the three level course, and regularly traveled to Germany every year, trying to visit one or two different neighboring countries each time he went. The Covid lockdown ended his travels. He wants to get back overseas, but he's got some priorities here first, before he can do that. Both my sons got the shots, and as a mother, it's something I'm concerned with regarding their health.

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