Posted on 05/22/2024 3:26:06 PM PDT by Libloather
Thirteen fed-up counties in liberal Oregon have voted in support of measures to start negotiations to secede from the state and join conservative Idaho.
Crook County became the latest to approve the 'Greater Idaho Measure' following a vote on Tuesday.
The proposal seeks to move the Oregon border 200 miles to the west, meaning that 14 counties and several partial counties would fall under Idaho state lines.
Organizers behind the Greater Idaho movement say east Oregonians are being alienated by the state's progressive policies which they blame for high crime rates.
They claim a move to Idaho would allow residents to take advantage of lower taxation and provide better representation and governance.
'The Oregon/Idaho line was established 163 years ago and is now outdated,' the movement's website states.
'It makes no sense in its current location because it doesn't match the location of the cultural divide in Oregon.
'We want an economy that is not held back by Oregon regulations and taxes, including environmental regulations.
'We’ll still have federal and Idaho regulations, and that’s plenty. Idaho knows how to respect rural counties and their livelihoods.'
Measure 7-86, as it was known, passed by 53 percent in Crook County in the latest boost to the Greater Idaho campaign.
However, the vote is not legislatively binding and just means residents are in favor of informing state and federal representatives that they support negotiations to annex part of Oregon.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Yeah, I’m 30 mins from WV, west or south.
States DID have the rough equivalent of the Electoral College. Maybe you know that, but the wording isn’t clear.
For the benefit of those who do not, the idea was that large population centers in a state could not dominate the rest of the state. Sound familiar? Well it should. That’s why a 1/3 of Oregon wants to Join Idaho.
It was decided by SCOTUS (who else probably the Warren regime), “One Man One Vote” and that, as they say, was the end of that.
It’s important to know History, because while a lot of people know things are FUBAR, they don’t know *why* or *how* things got FUBAR. This was a calculated move to knock off one of the timbers that made this country function.
The EC and the Senate are others, obviously. They wanted Mob Rule, and they got it. They aren’t going to stop now.
Put your peepers on. Read it again. That isn’t it what it says.
Clearly they are talking about new states.
Besides, it’s all CalvinBall now. One thing that is amusing (sort of) is conservative insistence on dotting all the i’s and crossing t’s, we’re up against stone cold thugs and Republicans want to ask permission and operate under Queen of Marquesberry rules or whatever it’s called.
If there’s a flaw in the design of our nation’s founding, it seems the founders did not anticipate that cities and counties would have so much influence on a whole state.
We need some mechanism to dilute the disproportionate power of metro areas. We have examples through history demonstrating this phenomenon.
Yes they did have a right to a rough equivalent of the electoral college (Some states took advantage of it others didn’t!). Then the USSC decision Reynolds v. Sims. Evertt Dirksen senator from Illionois warned what would happen, he said it would wreck Illinois it did. Its wrecking all states that have large urban centers. He led an ultimately unsuccessful effort to convene an Article V convention to solve the problem.
“We need some mechanism to dilute the disproportionate power of metro areas.”
The Supreme Court took that away in 1964. Reynolds v. Sims
Now you know one of the reasons why so many states are FUBAR. The EC, as much as the Reds hate it, is rapidly becoming moot. They know how to game the system. They’ll still kill it anyway.
The “2 Senators per State” gets killed after that. They REALLY hate that too.
My oath stated “...all enemies foreign and domestic...”. Might need to change the latter to “democratic”.
RE: “...all enemies
The term “enemies” means those who have chosen to become America’s foes, and who is doing more harm than the Dems (weakening defense, allowing invading army age males across the borders, draining the strategic oil and gasoline reserves, diluting the military to enhance gay and trans quota statistics, chilling freedom of speech.
Ain’t exactly friends.
Obama dumped turds from Somalia in Boise. Gotta get rid of Boise.
Tell Congress they have no power here, and do what the Democrats do the court.
Hate to break it to everyone here, The Constitution doesn’t mean anything anymore. Only means something to us here, but the jackasses in power don’t care for it.
What’s congress going to do, send “the Squad” to enforce its will? if these counties and Idaho decide to be a unit, Congress and Oregon can try to stop it. Oregon has no physical power to enforce Portland’s will over these counties. and Congress has no physical power either. take away Idaho’s Federal Funds? Idaho refuses to pay the fed its cut. Promise you The feds will lose more then they gain doing that. Idaho isn’t a Fiat debt blackhole like New York and Californiastan/North Mexico.
Deploy Troops? National Guard? Won’t happen.
if a POS in Portland wailes about it, and no one gives a shit, did the pos wail?
I’d love to see more of these...State of Aroostook, the Northern 3/4 of Maine. Quiet Country and Litchfield Hills, succeed from Connecticut...
“..I’d love to see more of these...State of Aroostook, the Northern 3/4 of Maine...”
You and me both!!! ^THIS^ is exactly what needs to happen up there!!!!
Draw an east/west line straight thru Augusta, take everything north of that line and leave “little Massachusetts” to itself.
“the jackasses in power don’t care for it”
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Its axiomatic that those in power want to stay in power. And they want more of it. Its all about control, so any challenge to the existing power structure is always going to be problematic, especially when the ruling elites make up their own rules and/or decide which ones to follow.
As opposed to what the Left believes, the purpose of government is not to impose social justice.
That was forgotten in Scotus’ 1964 Reynolds v. Sims ruling.
Citing a non-existent “one man one vote” principle, eight Warren Court black-robes ruled that state legislative districts must be of approximately equal populations. Through a rogue interpretation of the 14th Amendment’s equal protection clause, these masterminds imposed a democratic republic form of government on all fifty states!
Scotus gave large metropolitan areas control of both houses of state legislatures. No longer did rural areas have a counterbalancing voice. No longer was the damage done by urban demagogues limited to high density cities. Reynolds guaranteed the states would eventually succumb to the same leveling social justice forces that have always typified big city government.
Ping to #54.
Evertt Dirksen senator from Illionois warned what 1964 Reynolds v. Sims decision would do. He said it would wreck Illinois it did. Its wrecking all states that have large urban centers. He led an ultimately unsuccessful effort to convene an Article V convention to solve the problem. Maybe a new Article V convention or at least a revisit to the USSC with another test case.
I wasn’t aware of Dirksen’s A5 effort. Thanks.
If the States were still represented in the US Senate, I guarantee the Scotus would never have attempted such a usurpation.
Sen. Millard Tydings (D-MD) stated that the legislatures that had applied for this convention were themselves malapportioned, and thus Congress could safely ignore the applications and refuse to call the convention. (Tydings later went to prison.) Sen. Charles Percy's (R-IL) argument was a bit more tightly argued but also aimed at Congress refusing to call the convention. Dirksen quoted the clear language of Article V and Hamilton's statement in Federalist #85 that Congress had no discretion in the matter, and Congress needed to establish some ground rules for how the convention was to function.
In 1969, Dirksen died of emphysema due to his 4-pack-a-day habit, the habit that gave him his distinctive voice. The wind then went out of the sails of the movement. I think most states that applied for this convention have since rescinded their applications.
Thanks for the information!
where I live now, in the west, my side of the state could use being part of the New Idaho.....
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