Posted on 05/20/2024 9:00:41 AM PDT by MeganC
2,078 views May 19, 2024 Police departments across Utah have spent thousands of taxpayer dollars on a company that was recently cited for coaching officers to glorify violence and ignore the Constitution.
@libertybell1574 1 hour ago The constitution is inconvenient for a reason.
@Dragonslayer-zq8qp 11 hours ago And this suprises anyone?
@adam1885282 4 hours ago Policing is irreparably broken. We need to start over.
@TrilobitesRTasty 10 hours ago “What local chiefs and sheriffs are doing about.” Is that a joke? They’re the ones who hired these clowns. Local chiefs and sheriffs should be doing only one thing: updating their resumes because they need to get fired.
@bitcoinconstitutionalist9252 2 hours ago This is how they are trained and we're supposed to trust them? That's simply illogical.
@chastrell70 3 hours ago This is just the newest bad cop training. they have been doing worse than this for a long time, do your research.
@invasivecoyote1361 4 hours ago I fired my first FTO because he wanted to always trophie hunt or seek confrontation. If you're working with an FTO that finds the need to brag about his trophies every day at the end of a shift walk away.
@FlapSmear78 11 hours ago I watched that performance, imo that joke about the coke explains some of the behaviors we have seen.
@thatgirljames6635 10 hours ago THANK YOU CHRIS FOR DOING WHAT NOT ONE, of these other "Men in Blue" had the courage to do!!
@CarlKem 32 minutes ago Someone needs to tell Benigno that his swastika armband is upside down....
@carlatamanczyk3891 1 hour ago It's enough of a challenge to garner public support for backing the blue as it is. Now it becomes that much tougher.
@damonr4136 1 minute ago They teach the same Unconstitutional practices in the police academy and by FTOs during their rookie year, that's the bigger problem because it's nationwide and still ongoing
@josephpadula2283 7 minutes ago In NJ a BB gun is treated like a real gun ! Need to get a permit that can take months . No children have them and it is the only state like that . Second amendment basic nit there . So if they are worried about upholding the constitution. , start there, by Not enforcing unconstitutional laws
Read last years Bruen decision by the SCOTUS if you don’t believe me .
Do you remember the case of the ER nurse (former Olympic skier) who was arrested for refusing an unlawful demand by police officers to turn over a blood test without a warrant? She was not only within her right, but also under a professional duty, to maintain confidentiality of patient records. The cop did not have a court order for the records. So he arrested her for obstruction of an investigation.
Yep, Salt Lake City PD.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Wubbels
On July 26, 2017, she was unlawfully arrested for “obstructing justice” while on duty as a nurse at the University of Utah Hospital in Salt Lake City. The incident was later made public via the officers’ body cameras. The arresting officer, detective Jeff Payne of the Salt Lake City Police Department, demanded that blood be drawn from an unconscious patient, but Wubbels stated that doing so would be a violation of hospital policy, which required that the patient be under arrest, or had given consent, or that the police were in possession of a warrant (either a printed copy or an electronic one). The patient was the victim in a car crash and was not under arrest, but was unconscious and therefore unable to consent, and the police had not obtained a warrant.[7] She followed hospital policy and refused to allow the officer to draw blood, and the arresting officers proceeded to forcibly put her in handcuffs and into the front passenger seat of their cruiser.[3][8] The year-old hospital policy related to blood draws reflects the legal position in the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), as well as the Supreme Court of the United States’ ruling in Birchfield v. North Dakota and had been agreed to by the police department.
Wubbels was later released without charge.[9] The arresting officer was fired on October 10, and his supervisor was demoted two ranks from Lieutenant to Officer.[10][11][12][13] On October 31, 2017, Wubbels and her attorney announced that Salt Lake City and the University of Utah had agreed to settle the incident for $500,000. She said that part of her settlement will go toward efforts geared to making body cam footage more accessible to the public.[14][15] The incident was one of the reasons Medscape put Wubbels on its list of the best physicians in 2017.[16]
Two things I remember about the Wubbels case:
1. The hospital security officers were present and just stood there like potted plants while this happened.
2. She was a nurse; where was the ER doctor while one of his/her nurses was getting arrested? The doc should have been there, ordering his security potted plants to remove the trespassers from his ER.
LOL
The TV people would have aa stroke if they watched the *Donut Operator* channel for 20 min. Or worse - spent an hour with a Marine combat unit. Rough men use rough language.
As for the rest - watch the Donut Operator vids - he uses police body cams. For real hilarity play “Sovereign Citizen Bingo” to see the crap some folks lay on the Voppos.
Full disclosure - my sister was a street cop in Tucson for over a decade. She quit. Wasn’t worth the guff she had to take from the public.
Thankless job made more thankless - thanks to the media.
bttt
End qualified immunity, require them to have individual, personal bonds, just like any remodel contractor Joe Schmoe or plumber, or electrician. The insurance industry will run up the bad one’s bond costs so quick it will make your head spin, and out they go. No bond, no job. You can provide them with the average bond price as a stipend and once they go over that, it comes out of their own pockets. Watch them become Patrick Swayze in Roadhouse immediately. Be nice.
If I remember correctly, there was something about other cops involved in the accident, so they were trying to find a thin-blue-line way to get the guy in the ER to be blamed for it.
I could not agree with you more.
That issue was actually another thing the courts made up out of thin air.
Did you see the latest vid of the Santa Fe TX cops who took down a lady who was dropping off her child at school? Het crime? She went the wrong way at the drop off.
So what’d they do? They took her down, handcuffed her and held her down with her face in a nest of fire ants. She pleaded with them telling them to at least get her away from there. They quit counting the bites at over 300.
Then the one were a woman cop held a cuffed black man on the hood of the cruiser and tazed him for a long period of time...in AL.
I have two nephews on police forces in the upper Midwest. I have schooled them myself on civil rights, as much as I could, since neither of them had any instruction in school. My best friend was a police officer and knew the civil rights because we all talked about it often.
I had one cousin, sheriff of a county in N Wisconsin for 16 years. Interestingly, they seldom had cases of drunken driving go to court. They simply gave the drivers a ride home and told them that they could pick up the car the next day at the impound yard after they pay the towing fee and impoundment fee. The judges loved it..didn’t have to put up with excessive court cases for drinking and driving. They gave the drivers two chances. The third time if they were caught..to jail they went along with the prior records.
Had two great uncles on sheriff depts back in the early 1900s.
“Some of these cops are former military who have stress related mental health issues.”
Then they have no business being cops, do they?
The security guards were unprepared for dealing with a roided-up monster who was bent on having his way.
Had they intervened it’s entirely probable Jeff Payne would have escalated the situation to using deadly force in the ER.
What the Wiki page neglects to mention is that the man whose rights were being protected by Nurse Wubbels?
He was a part time Rigby, Idaho cop.
What was Mitt’s involvement?
I will say it again since some didn’t like what I said.
Some of these cops are former military who have ptsd problems from their military days.
Every single one of these people need to go through mental health evaluation before they are put on duty.
If the moderators don’t like that then that just too bad.
I’d say it was the “bs” word that attracted attention.
I agree that all cops should be psychologically screened before they’re hired but the problem is that so many who FAIL those screenings get hired anyway.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/30/us/alameda-sheriff-psychological-evaluation-fail/index.html
“What was Mitt’s involvement?”
I was unaware of Romney’s involvement in this situation. What did he do?
Sarcasm, as this would be something Mitt would approve of.
Was a part time Rigby officer. Died a short time later.
This entire incident stemmed from a UHP car chase in n. Utah. The perp they were chasing crashed head on into a truck. The UHP was trying to get blood from the truck driver so they maybe could partially blame the truck driver (who was the part time Rigby cop) for the crash.
BTW, the driver of the perp car died in the head on crash which caused a fireball explosion. The truck driver got out of the truck while he was on fire.
You can still find video of the crash online.
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