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Trump sees massive surge in the polls with surprise demographic: 'Truly historic'
UK Daily Mail ^ | May 18 2024 | JAMES CIRRONE

Posted on 05/17/2024 10:59:08 PM PDT by knighthawk

Former President Donald Trump is surging with a voter bloc Americans might not expect.

Black voters are flocking to Trump in huge numbers, while simultaneously leaving President Joe Biden, CNN's average of polls showed.

Trump's support among black voters surged to 22 percent compared to 2020, when the 45th president only had the support of 9 percent of the demographic.

Biden, on the other hand, saw his 81 percent of black voter support in 2020 dip to 69 percent.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2024; biden; bidencantwin; loserjoe; maga; trump; trump2024
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1 posted on 05/17/2024 10:59:08 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk

Biden warned them if you don’t vote for me then you aren’t black.

They see through the pandering and condescension.
Maybe he should dress up like a homeboy and start a phony accent like Hillary does when she lowers herself to talk to black audiences.

Biden’s new look for visiting the hood.

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In Xanadu which I just watched last night. Loved it.
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2 posted on 05/17/2024 11:06:07 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: knighthawk

BTTT


3 posted on 05/17/2024 11:09:35 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: knighthawk
Black men, maybe. Black women, forget it. But back in the day, black people loved Trump. Especially "Carlton"...


4 posted on 05/17/2024 11:12:23 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: frank ballenger

Does Biden carry hot sauce with him, or would opening the bottle somehow cause an olfactory disturbance and interfere with his child-sniffing?


5 posted on 05/17/2024 11:29:47 PM PDT by JimmyTheFish
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To: knighthawk

Based on social media chatter....I’d say around Chicago presently....nearly half of adult blacks are persuaded to vote for Trump. Entirely possible for Illinois to be a Trump win by November. This whole migration ‘gimmick’ was not clearly thought through and considered on impact to the present population.


6 posted on 05/17/2024 11:49:28 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: knighthawk

Black Americans have been so grossly lied to for so long by the D party!! .... many are waking up!


7 posted on 05/17/2024 11:55:35 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: pepsionice

Black voters support can make a huge difference.

As you note, Illinois could be close if significant numbers of blacks in the Chicago area voted for Trump.

There are huge numbers of blacks in Detroit who could tip Michigan.

The big black population of Atlanta could tip Georgia.

There’s a big black population in Philadelphia that could move Pennsylvania back to Trump.


8 posted on 05/17/2024 11:56:01 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: frank ballenger

I don’t doubt the trending, but these minority polling shifts often are way odd because sample size is just so small. Margins of error is high..


9 posted on 05/18/2024 12:05:49 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: knighthawk

We’ve been fed this hopeful crap for years. Reality is that once the vast majority of Blacks walk into the voting booth, they reflexively vote straight ticket Democrat, every single time.


10 posted on 05/18/2024 12:44:34 AM PDT by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: Rocco DiPippo
There is a substantial core of conservative blacks who believe in and live by traditional values. Some are registered Republican, but even more are registered as independents or nominal Democrats. Most of the time, conservative blacks are politically homeless because the GOP does not understand them or consistently try to gain their support and get them to the polls.

Nevertheless, events and circumstances can lead to moments that create a political opening for Republicans to win a chunk of black support. Not only is Biden a disaster for blacks, but Trump's MAGA message appeals to black patriotism and common sense and his celebrity status and outsize personality mark him as not the usual type of Republican. Now, being prosecuted unfairly and slowly winning a tough fight against his persecutors puts Trump squarely in line with the experience of many blacks and mobilizes black sentiment that favors underdogs.

The problem for the Democrats is that there is no ready way to counter Trump's growing appeal to blacks. With luck, blacks may help Trump and the GOP to win in 2024 and realign American politics for a generation or more.

11 posted on 05/18/2024 1:30:45 AM PDT by Rockingham (`)
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To: knighthawk

This black support for Trump was indicated in several polls,especially Rasmussen, in 2020, but it never materialized.
I predict blacks will revert to form and vote 90% Biden


12 posted on 05/18/2024 2:03:00 AM PDT by nbenyo
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To: knighthawk

Blacks facing legal harassments should be able to relate to Trump’s present situation


13 posted on 05/18/2024 2:31:24 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment
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To: pepsionice

Not a chance.


14 posted on 05/18/2024 2:59:21 AM PDT by Fireone (Who killed Obama's chef?)
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15 posted on 05/18/2024 3:15:50 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

That may well be true, however, how many of those votes will actually be credited to Trump AFTER the vote counters get done counting?


16 posted on 05/18/2024 3:23:38 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32
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To: knighthawk

Blacks feel displaced by illegal aliens on the intersection victim totem poll. Democrats are are showering illegals with goodies these days. We all know why.


17 posted on 05/18/2024 3:26:53 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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To: knighthawk

Democrats give blacks a lot of freebies Republicans do not. That’s why they get the black vote.

Although black people are, on average, more conservative than white liberals, a significant break among black voters from the Democratic Party should be unlikely, because the Democratic Party treats black people collectively as an interest group it services, and the GOP does not.

Giving stuff to and doing stuff for black people is one of the main things the Democratic Party is about. Central to its messaging is that they do things for black people. That is why Joe Biden promised to nominate a black Supreme Court justice, and Gavin Newsom promised to fill a Senate vacancy with a black appointee.

The Republican Party’s messaging to white people isn’t as explicit, but the subtext is clear. They’re saying that the Democrats want to take stuff from “you,” their prospective voter who is probably white, and give it to “somebody else” who is probably black or an immigrant.

For black voters to switch in large numbers from the party that promises to give stuff to black people to the party that opposes giving stuff to black people, the Democrats have to err spectacularly. Basically, black people have to hate the stuff the Democrats are giving them.

One major thing the Democrats have been giving black people since 2020 is the Black Lives Matter agenda: Less policing, less traffic enforcement, less pretrial detention, less imprisonment, fewer police interactions with black men in areas where a lot of black people live.

It is possible that a lot of black people actually hate the Black Lives Matter agenda. It is possible that they are upset that people are driving sixty miles an hour down the street where their kids play. It is possible they blame Democrats for the rise in crime and disorder.

Black people bear the brunt of rising crime much more than white people do, so when white liberals believe crime is a conservative bogeyman, they think they’re being antiracist, but they’re actually dismissing the concerns of black people who are experiencing rising crime acutely.

The other thing that might be happening is that the GOP message that the Democrats are taking something from “you” and giving it to “somebody else” is appealing to black voters more than it has in previous cycles, because this time, the “somebody else” is migrants.

A lot of black voters live in large cities and a lot of migrants have flowed into those cities in the last couple of years, and black people in those cities are experiencing more negative impact from this than white liberals are.

The school gymnasium or the community center in a black neighborhood may have been turned into a shelter for migrants, or migrants may be congregating in a park in a predominantly black neighborhood. City programs that historically benefited black residents may be cut to defer funds to migrant services.

White liberals experience the migrants as, like, an unlicensed vendor selling cut mango in front of the art museum, and black voters experience the migrants as MS-13 selling fentanyl on their block.

I still have a hard time imagining that a lot of black voters are going to support Donald Trump, who, for better or worse, has successfully been tagged as a racist. But if black people are really fleeing Joe Biden, then it reveals a stunning disconnect, because the Biden administration has been more dedicated to “stuff for black people” than any Democratic administration in my lifetime.

If Biden is losing the support of black voters, then that means that crime and immigration are more important to black people than the BLM agenda, the appointment of black judges and executive branch officials, affirmative action and diversity policies, and student loan forgiveness.


18 posted on 05/18/2024 3:35:28 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: frank ballenger

Yup. I predicted this months ago on here. Lawfare will backfire tremendously by bringing blacks to Trump.


19 posted on 05/18/2024 3:40:43 AM PDT by guinness4strength
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To: knighthawk

Unless the GOP backs away from its opposition to racial quotas, it’s unlikely to break out of the teens. But if it stopped opposing them, a bigger chunk of the white vote might balk. It’s a little like Bud Lite marketing to cross dressers hoping for some incremental new customers, only to lose many of its core clientele.

The point being made is that black votes for the Democrats are very rational. If racial quotas go away, a huge chunk of the black middle class goes with it. That is why it will be a struggle for the GOP to get even 15% of the black vote. If employers hired and promoted based strictly on ability, blacks would tend to pool at entry level jobs. It’s not pretty, but there it is.


20 posted on 05/18/2024 3:44:54 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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