Russia Has No Plans to Take Kharkov Under Control Now

You're telling us that the folks in Donetsk wish to be ruled by Kiev rather than Moscow

Yes. Why would the Ukrainian majority in Donetsk wish to be ruled by Russians? And please, do not point to the two bogus referenda. They are about as reliable as elections in North Korea.

Believe what ever you will. As you well know- from day one I knew war with Russia was a FOOLS game……

……the old saying: When a clown moves into the Palace ( Senile Joe), the clown doesn’t turn into a “ King”, the Palace turns into a Circus!

….as we have been witnessing for some time.

Carry on Court Jesters!

Stop with the falsehood that Ukraine was shelling the civilian populations in Donetsk and Belgorod
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Believing the Western narrative is hazardous to your health- carry on!

Because the Russian media is sooooo much better.

Yes. Why would the Ukrainian majority in Donetsk wish to be ruled by Russians?

Because this conflict has zero, to do with ethnicity. Rather, it is an attempt by Russia to come to the aid of those who identify with Russian culture, whatever their ethnicity. That includes a lot of Ukrainians.

One man's "invasion" is another man's liberation. I don't believe the folks in Donetsk see things in quite the same way as you are attempting to portray them.

The aim of the Western elites, since well before 2014, has been to turn Ukraine (and eventually Russia) into a Slavic version of Canada; a liberal, woke, fascist state where the proclamation of the Christian gospel, especially as it relates to human sexuality, is deemed to be "hate" speech. In short, Russian intervention is aimed at liberating those who have a problem with Western/American culture and don't wish to see rainbow flags hanging off every building. So when I say "Russian culture", I mean a culture where the ruling elites are not lead around on a leash by sodomites.

In short, this is a "culture war" which has turned into a real war. NATO is simply the military wing of Western cultural imperialism. To portray this situation as simply another land-grab by Russia is ridiculous but fits neatly and lazily into the American world-view, circa 1962.

Ukraine is a client state of the US State Department but Russia won't go quietly....at all.

As for Belgorod, the reason that the Russians were able to mass troops to attack toward Kharkiv is that the Ukrainians were not allowed to use US supplied weapons, i.e. artillery, to attack within Russia.

The US isn't the only country supplying artillery to Ukraine, and iirc the recent attacks on Russia from Kharkov region were carried out using French weapon systems (and perhaps French operators). The NATO nazis even managed to shoot down a plane load of their own POW countrymen on their to be exchanged that way.

Because the Russian media is sooooo much better.
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No, the NON WESTERN MSM media is soooooo much more honest! 3rd party reporting , unencumbered by narratives and initiatives .

Of course, you must seek them out, translate them, ….one who is spoon fed dies when the spoon feeder goes away.

Ukraine is a client state of the US State Department...

That's Moscovite thinking, because they see themselves "owning" all the states that were ever part of their empire. They can't even imagine a state refusing "ownership" by Moscow without assuming that somebody else (i.e. the USA) must be "owning" it. And you're falling for it.

Carry on, Putin lovers.

This a test, only a test….how well do you followers really follow the war?

1) St Z visited Bakmut, it fell weeks later
2) St Z visited Avdivka, it fell weeks later
3) St Z just visited Kharkov…..

It is called “ The Zelensky Curse”…..

You stated that his statement was not true. But this whole conflict began with the coup d'état that toppled a duly elected President of Ukraine, for which Russia retaliated by taking back the Crimea that Russia captured, not from Ukraine, but from the Ottoman Empire in the late 1700s. That Nikita Khrushchev had gifted to Ukraine in 1954.

Then the Azov (Nazi) forces began attacking the Russian speaking populations in eastern Ukraine in 2014. This all was the direct result of the Ukraine parliament enacting laws outlawing the speaking of Russian in public at governmental building to include schools as well. It also took away the pensions of Russian speaking Ukrainians retired from governmental positions they had worked in & retired from, prompting them to seek autonomy to rule themselves, while still remaining to be a part of the nation of Ukraine.

After the attacks began on them, then separatists began seeking to breakaway, and asked Russia to provide them protection.

In the meantime Putin tried working to secure a peace agreement which resulted in not one but two agreements, referred to as the Minsk Accords of 2014 & 2015, but these accords were not being implemented.

When Angela Merkle stepped down she stated flat out that they had no intention of implementing these accords, they they were just a delaying tactic to provide time to build & train a Ukrainian military and supply them with war making equipment, armaments, and munitions.

Do you really know so little about what has sparked this conflict?

No wonder you believe the lies being presented.

Before you go there, I support neither side of this conflict.

I have just from the beginning wanted to resolve the conflict to save innocent lives on both sides, because I saw evil behind all of this, and Obama/Biden were high-profile instigators of this conflict, along with the infamous Victoria Nuland.

Shortly after Putin/Russia invasion, Zelenskyy & Putin held peace talks and had hammered out a peaceful resolution. Russia would pull out of all territories it occupied, except for the Crimea that Russia deemed critical to its national security, if Ukraine agreed to remain neutral and not join NATO. They had come to terms & were going to meet again to finalize the formal agreement at their next meeting. Then Boris Johnson waltzed in and told Zelenskyy not to make any agreement with Putin, promising Zelenskyy that NATO would have his back if Russia invaded.

So, Ukraine put itself on the line & basically agreed to a war, because Russia was not going to back down from their stance that Putin had stated in 2008, that NATO expansion into either Ukraine or Georgia would be considered red lines that Russia would not tolerate. This is exactly what the west wanted to happen, in order to facilitate a proxy war being held in Ukraine, with the Ukrainian males as the combatants. They have even stated that it's better to fight Russia over there than here in the US, as if that were a reality in the first place.

This my friend is what you have supported & continue to support, and it is nothing short of pure evil. Evil devised by the very same people that schemed with the forces of evil to turn this nation into a tyrannically run nation. But they had to capture the controls once again to do so. That is when they schemed to orchestrate a coup d'état of the US presidency in the 2020 election, because they could not afford to have Trump have another 4 years in control of those levers of power.

So, in reality you are supporting the overthrow of this nation in support of the one World Government., which would be a totally corrupt entity, because power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

wake up man to what the heck is really happening in the world. This is the good vs. evil struggle that the Bible talks about, and currently you are supporting evil hopefully unwittingly, but supporting evil nonetheless, and all it takes is for good men to do nothing for evil to succeed.

Especially if those good men refuse to accept where the real threat exists. It's not from Russia for sure, and even China's threat pales in comparison than does the internal threats pose, because they are the ones who are currently in control of the levers of power. Having that control determines our ability to fight back.

Why do you think they have gone all out gonzo with criminality of lawfare to attack Trump, which is an attack on the freedom of every ordinary citizen of this nation, but will ultimately have negative impacts/implications upon every ordinary citizen of the world.

For the sake of goodness, wake up before time runs out. we still can defeat this if we join forces, instead of fighting amongst ourselves over Ukraine. Ukraine means nothing in the big picture. It is being offered as a distraction, as I have stated many times now. However, you clowns refuse to think for yourselves. Time to start doing so my friend. Otherwise, the world falls into complete depravity and the world will without question be consumed by fire, because there are still nations arrayed against this globalist attempt to seize total power, because they too want that power for themselves. Which can only mean one thing, the struggle to become the dominate one in that endeavor will follow.

You might be interested in my post #30.

Carry on...Mittens.

That's Moscovite thinking, because they see themselves "owning" all the states that were ever part of their empire

They want to "own" the state? No, that's false. Ukraine is closer to Russia than Cuba is to America, so of course they have an interest in what goes on there, just as we threatened the world with war in 1962 when the Soviet Union tried to put missiles on Cuba. Were we trying to "own" Cuba?

At least Russia's concerns are located on their very own doorstep. We go to a completely different continent when we invade sovereign nations (e.g. Iraq).

They want to "own" the state?

That's the word they use, (in Russian of course).

Well, the non-western msm is vastly better. I suggest the Poles for Ukraine.

They want to "own" the state?

"It cannot be stressed strongly enough that without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be an empire, but with Ukraine suborned and then subordinated, Russia automatically becomes an empire."

Zbigniew Brzezinski

Alexander Dugin-"This war is about Russia becoming empire again, with Ukraine in its zone of control"

Alexander Dugin-This War is About Russia Becoming Empire Again

The truth is not quite as you have portrayed it.

But this whole conflict began with the coup d'état that toppled a duly elected President of Ukraine…

No, this conflict began when Putin put pressure on Yanukovych to betray his electoral mandate and reverse himself on the EU/Ukraine agreement that he had earlier supported, which had already been approved by the parliament and was supported by 2/3 of the population. He then sought to yoke Ukraine to the Russian lead Eurasian Economic Union. The protests that followed were spontaneous, not a product of the CIA. Yanukovych turned the security forces on the protesters and events became violent. He then fled the country, after which the democratically elected parliament declared that he had abandoned his office. This is a part of the story that the pro-Russian crowd always leaves out. In any case, there have been two (2) elections since then.

…for which Russia retaliated by taking back the Crimea…

And also by seizing Donbas under the cover of local Russian militias. I will cede that Crimea, and only Crimea, has a Russian majority. But it should be pointed out that this only goes back to Stalin who expelled the local Tartars and replaced them with Russians.

Then the Azov (Nazi) forces began attacking the Russian speaking populations in eastern Ukraine in 2014.

No, they attacked the Russian backed militias who had seized Donbas.

This all was the direct result of the Ukraine parliament enacting laws outlawing the speaking of Russian in public at governmental building to include schools as well.

I will give you credit for not saying, as often is, that Ukraine outlawed Russian in public. But even here you go a bit too far. The law did not "outlaw" the use of Russian in public, only that Ukrainian should be used in government offices and in education. Two Russian speakers were not forbidden to speak to each other in Russian if they happened to be in a government building or in a schoolhouse. How many here would object to a mandate that English should be used in government offices and in education?

After the attacks began on them, then separatists began seeking to breakaway, and asked Russia to provide them protection.

Glossing over the attacks of the separatists on Ukrainian security forces? It was the Russian backed militias that first resorted to violence, not the Ukrainian security forces who were seeking to restore order.

In the meantime Putin tried working to secure a peace agreement which resulted in not one but two agreements, referred to as the Minsk Accords of 2014 & 2015, but these accords were not being implemented.

The only reason there was a need for the Minsk Accords is the first place is because of Russia's invasion under the cover of local Russian militias.

When Angela Merkle stepped down she stated flat out that they had no intention of implementing these accords, they they were just a delaying tactic to provide time to build & train a Ukrainian military and supply them with war making equipment, armaments, and munitions.

Except, contrary to Russian claims, Ukraine did implement them. Ukraine twice passed a law granting Donbas autonomy. They were also planning to hold the required referenda. It as Russia that balked and prevented the referenda because they would not control it. Russia also failed to withdraw its forces and hand over the border as required.

Shortly after Putin/Russia invasion, Zelenskyy & Putin held peace talks and had hammered out a peaceful resolution. Russia would pull out of all territories it occupied, except for the Crimea that Russia deemed critical to its national security, if Ukraine agreed to remain neutral and not join NATO. They had come to terms & were going to meet again to finalize the formal agreement at their next meeting. Then Boris Johnson waltzed in and told Zelenskyy not to make any agreement with Putin, promising Zelenskyy that NATO would have his back if Russia invaded.

There was only an outline, not an agreement. There were major points that had not been agreed to:

Russia had not agreed to withdraw from Donbas.
Russia demanded that Ukraine limit its armed forces to 85,000 men, less that what it had before the start of the war. This would have left Ukraine defenseless.
The security guarantees had not been presented to the US and other western powers, much less agreed to.
Russia insisted that it be one of the guaranteeing powers and that their intervention would have to be agreed to by all. This, of course, would have made the whole idea a farce.

Talks were not broken off because of Boris Johnson's interventions. Zelensky stated that he was still open to an agreement after Johnson's visit. Rather, negotiations were cut off because of the revelations of the Bucha massacre. This turned public opinion in Ukraine against an agreement. Putin also refused to negotiate after Russia was accused of the massacre.

So, Ukraine put itself on the line & basically agreed to a war, because Russia was not going to back down from their stance that Putin had stated in 2008, that NATO expansion into either Ukraine or Georgia would be considered red lines that Russia would not tolerate.

Except that Putin's own chief negotiator in Kyiv has stated that Zelensky had agreed to no NATO membership before Russia invaded but that Putin rejected it because he was interested in seizing Ukrainian territory. Even now I think that Zelensky would agree to no NATO membership if Russia would withdraw from Ukrainian territory.

I suggest that you go beyond Russian propaganda to discover the truth of what is happening. Putin, like many other Russians, has not accepted the reality of Ukrainian independence. He believes that all of Ukraine, not just Crimea and Donbas, belong to Russia. He has stated as much for many years. This is not about NATO expansion or the NWO, but Putin's desire to restore the borders of imperial Russia. All else is pure propaganda.

Jimmy Carter's National Security Advisor is our go-to oracle on this?

Dugin sees the war as a type of "holy war" against evil which he sees embodied in Western civilization. Ergo, the war is aimed at removing this influence from Ukraine or at least parts of it, and the talk of a Russian "empire" is meant to indicate an alternative "empire" to the empire of evil which he sees spreading to Russia's borders.

It's not unlike Reagan and Thatcher's "empire of evil" rhetoric against the Soviet Union.

No, this conflict began when Putin put pressure on Yanukovych to betray his electoral mandate and reverse himself on the EU/Ukraine agreement that he had earlier supported, which had already been approved by the parliament and was supported by 2/3 of the population. He then sought to yoke Ukraine to the Russian lead Eurasian Economic Union. The protests that followed were spontaneous, not a product of the CIA. Yanukovych turned the security forces on the protesters and events became violent. He then fled the country, after which the democratically elected parliament declared that he had abandoned his office. This is a part of the story that the pro-Russian crowd always leaves out. In any case, there have been two (2) elections since then.

Not the truth at all. The real truth is that Viktor Yanukovych was prepared to sign both the EU & Russian trade agreements, because that provided the best opportunities for the fledgling new Ukraine nation state. Because competition is the key to providing the best for the the best price for the Ukrainian people. when the EU got wind of what Viktor Yanukovych was planning to do they told him that they would rescind their trade agreement offer. Viktor Yanukovych stated that he felt like the bride arriving at the church and being presented with a prenuptial agreement to sign before the vows are exchanged. He said that he decided to sign only the Russian trade agreement.

The protests were not spontaneous whatsoever. Just like the J6 protest wasn't an insurrection. Who knows, you probably believe the J6 lie as well. there is also evidence that anti-Russian elements were responsible for turning the "protests" violent by shooting at the protestors and then claiming it was forces loyal to Viktor Yanukovych. The fact that Victoria Nuland was present at these protests cheering on the Ukrainian people who is not a figure whose real feelings towards Russia are not well documents. If you have never investigated how the CIA has used color revolutions around the world, it wouldn't surprise me that you do not recognize one when you see it unfolding as color revolutions always do. Peaceful protest is how they start and keep escalating as the instigators raise the temperatures of the protestors until a full scale state of chaos & violence takes over.

Zelenskyy ran on the campaign promise to stop the hostilities in eastern Ukraine, and then ignored that campaign promise. However, it was that promise that won him a winning term as President. Now many Ukrainians are stuck with him & would love for nothing more than the opportunity to vote him out. Yes, two votes have taken place, and as far as I know that law is still on the books.

What you think you know, is nothing more than lies that you have foolishly accepted as being the truth, & you reject any other narrative presented, because it counters the narrative you chose to accept. As a result, you also chose to call us pro-Putin. The reality is I feel far more for the Ukrainian people who are having to endure this proxy war & the death of their males because we wanted a proxy war against Russia. But again you poo-poo my stated position in this conflict.

And also by seizing Donbas under the cover of local Russian militias. I will cede that Crimea, and only Crimea, has a Russian majority. But it should be pointed out that this only goes back to Stalin who expelled the local Tartars and replaced them with Russians.

true they controlled the Crimea and parts of the Donetsk & Luhansk regions in order to provide them with some form of protection against the Nazi Azov Battalion. It would be for another 8 years that they seized the entire Donbass, Luhansk regions, along with parts of Zaporizhzhia, & Kherson regions. Before that had been the case though, Zelenskyy & Putin had come to an agreement of returning all but the Crimea as I had said previously.

No, they attacked the Russian backed militias who had seized Donbas.

Sorry, but the Russian speaking Ukrainians were attacked before Russia supplied these people with weapons to defend themselves with. Much like the American militias protected themselves from the invading British military during the War for Independence..

I will give you credit for not saying, as often is, that Ukraine outlawed Russian in public. But even here you go a bit too far. The law did not "outlaw" the use of Russian in public, only that Ukrainian should be used in government offices and in education. Two Russian speakers were not forbidden to speak to each other in Russian if they happened to be in a government building or in a schoolhouse. How many here would object to a mandate that English should be used in government offices and in education?

Actually you are forced to admit that I speak the truth. However, you trying to equate Ukraine's dual language place the burden we carry by trying to allow everyone to speak their native tongue is ludicrous stupidity on several levels. The firs being that both languages are known by all Ukrainian citizens, so there really is no burden upon them whatsoever. However, it was an illegal act to speak or teach the Russian language in public facilities of Government. So if you mistakenly spoke in Russian, you could be charged with a criminal act.

The rest keeps repeating the claim you already made regarding Russian backed militias, & you have provided no evidence to support your claim. But of that were the case then Zelenskyy could not have run on the platform of ending the hostilities, because the Ukrainian Azov Battalion started the hostilities, and what result after wards were the acts of trying to protect themselves from terroristic acts upon them.

Furthermore, you ignored the fact that Zelenskyy had met shortly after the invasion and had come to a peaceful resolution, until Boris Johnson talked him out of doing so. They could have regained everything except for the Crimea, because you want to avoid that inconvenient truth. Instead, you want to place all of the blame on Russia, but that is not the truth. Until you are willing to acknowledge the truth, which you couldn't even do when I provided proof that your claim that his statement was not true was true, then we are both just wasting our time.

But as I have said and continue to say, you are supporting evil, regardless if you do so willingly or unwittingly. These evil people are the same one that are destroying our nation. They have already successfully pulled off a coup d'état of a presidential election in 2020 to regain control of the levers of power, and these are the people you are really helping, because you are not helping the Ukrainian people. All you are doing is prolonging their anguish.