Peru classifies transgender, nonbinary and intersex people as ‘mentally ill’

NY Post ^ | 5/14/2024 | By Olivia Land

[NohSpinZone]

The Peruvian government has officially classified transgender, nonbinary and intersex people as “mentally ill.”

The controversial decision was made to ensure the country’s public health services could “guarantee full coverage of medical attention for mental health” for the trans community, the Peruvian health ministry explained, according to the Telegraph.

The decree will supposedly alter the language in the Essentials Health Insurance Plan to reflect that trans and intersex people have a mental disorder, LGBTQ+ outlet Pink News reported.

Despite the change, trans and other LGBTQ+ people will not be forced to undergo conversion therapies, the health ministry insisted in a statement issued on Friday, the outlet reported.

[Sam Gamgee]

Yes the only problem is how far to the other extreme elections can take those countries. From right win to far far left. Though can it be really any worse from here?

[ConjunctionJunction]

No, that’s nonbinary.

Intersex is only about biology. It used to be called hermaphrodite.

[ducttape45]

That's a good point. I've noticed how the politics in other countries swing wildly from one election to another. Of course, it kind of does the same thing here, but we both know that behind the scenes in the US, the same people pull the strings no matter who is in office.

Then I see things like what has happened in Argentina, and I think, wow, let's move there! But the next election could see all the old crooks get back into power and screw things up again. So then I think, what's the use in moving? We're pretty much screwed no matter where we live anymore.

[Chicory]

There are not three sexes; there are two.

“Intersex” people have some type of phtsical malformation, usually resulting from genetic or chromosomal problems. This does not make them a third sex.

[WarANDPiece]

Of course! Yet they exist, so now what?

You just want to act like they don’t exist?

What would you classify their sex as? Male or female?

[DoughtyOne]

I don’t think they are either.

[Svartalfiar]

Of course! Yet they exist, so now what?

You just want to act like they don’t exist?

What would you classify their sex as? Male or female?

True hermaphrodites are extremely rare, less than a thousand documented cases. Ever.

Otherwise, almost every person can be categorized male or female based on the presence of the Y. Yes Y = male, no Y = female. Most chromosomal deficiences don't affect sex, but those that do, are definitively male or female. XYY, male. X or XXX, female. They may have ambiguous presentation or some cross-sex characteristics, but they are still specifically male or female.

Exceptions are some mutations where a male will have some cells drop the Y chromosome, but this is different from Turner's, and they're still male. Or, chimeras, where a second fetus of opposite sex was absorbed into the first, resulting in a mix of XX and XY cells, although normally one or the other is dominant. But again, very rare occurrences. None of these are something with tens of millions of people out there.

[WarANDPiece]

That’s a lot of words to say “yes they exist, but not enough for the government to waste any time adding a third option.”

They do exist, but not as far as systems of classifications go.

[SaveFerris]

[I think even 10 years ago American psychologists would have agreed,]

In the early 1970s (IIRC) homosexuality was still listed in DSM III. Psychology professor in college mentioned it over 35 years ago (I think he said 1970s).

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[Chickensoup]

Thank you

[Chicory]

Saying that intersex people do not constitute a third sex is not the same as denying they exist.

Yes, they exist, but they are people with a physical problem, not a “third sex.”

How they deal with it is an individual decision, not for me to say.

[Svartalfiar]

...You were the one banking if we should pretend they don’t exist..?

They are classified, and that’s how I presented them. Almost everything that exists can be classified in some manner