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Trump trial's OJ glove moment: Cohen tape undercuts prosecutors’ main story to jurors
Just The News ^ | May 14, 2024 | John Solomon and Steven Richards

Posted on 05/15/2024 6:35:10 AM PDT by Red Badger

This follows a pattern of weaknesses in Bragg’s case, which has been consistently undercut by other witnesses. But if the tapes don't fit: they must acquit.

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When Alvin Bragg's prosecutors opened their felony record-keeping trial, they promised to show the jurors that Donald Trump "orchestrated" a conspiracy to hide allegations from a porn star and another woman from voters in 2016 and disguise the source of the cash in his firm’s books.

When their star witness Michael Cohen played a tape he secretly made of his ex-boss and client, the recording appeared to show that Trump was unaware of key details, seemingly aloof to a plan that Cohen himself admitted he had concocted to make the so-called “hush money” payments.

Like the glove too small to fit OJ Simpson, the Cohen tape may prove an explosive boomerang that benefits the defense more than the prosecution. In the recordings, Trump doesn't admit to knowing the full scheme or ever mention trying to impact the elections—central components of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s charges against the former president.

If Trump didn't admit, jurors may certainly be asked to acquit. In criminal cases, the jury is required to find guilt "beyond a reasonable doubt."

“The defendant, Donald Trump, orchestrated a criminal scheme to corrupt the 2016 presidential election; then he covered up that criminal conspiracy by lying in his New York business records over and over and over again,” prosecutor Matthew Colangelo told the jury in his opening statement, succinctly summarizing Bragg’s case.

The prosecutor laid out the case, now the witnesses would have to provide the evidence to back up these claims. However, witness after witness seemed to undercut the central components of the case: that Trump had knowledge of the payments, that he was the orchestrator, and that he was motivated by manipulating the 2016 election to win.

Cohen, widely considered to be the star witness of the district attorney’s case, testified differently, claiming his former boss was a micromanager who would expect updates on his work.

Cohen also testified that Trump remained in the loop on efforts to "catch and kill" at least three unflattering stories as the 2016 election approached, a story from his doorman, Playboy Playmate Karen McDougal, and adult film actress Stormy Daniels—the payments for which Trump is alleged to have orchestrated the falsification of business records.

Trump's knowledge of the payments to Daniels and the others is central to Bragg's case because he has charged the former president with falsifying business records to conceal another crime, in this case, alleged campaign finance violations.

The pinnacle of Cohen’s testimony came when he played the recording of his boss which the prosecution hoped would show the jury that Trump was personally involved in efforts to pay Karen McDougal for the rights her story of an alleged affair.

Yet, one part of the recording appears to show Michael Cohen, not Trump, was orchestrating the method of payment. According to the audio, Trump appears unaware of his fixer’s methods of financing the payments.

“So, what are we going to pay for this? 150?,” Trump asked, referencing the payment for McDougal’s story.

“Yes. And it’s all the stuff,” Cohen replied.

While Trump is aware of McDougal’s story and efforts to acquire the rights to it, the audio shows he was not intimately familiar with his lawyer’s plans to set up the payment.

“Correct. So, I'm all over that. And I spoke to Allen about it, when it comes time for the financing which will be—“ Cohen said.

“Listen. What financing?” Trump asked.

"We'll have to pay,” Cohen said.

“So I’ll pay with cash,” Trump insisted.

“No, no, no, no, no. I got—no, no, no,” Cohen says and the recording ends.

It is unclear from the audio whether Trump was informed about Cohen’s specific plans to use a shell company to purchase the rights to the story by paying AMI—the company headed by David Pecker, then-publisher of the National Enquirer. This appears to contradict Bragg’s claim that Trump was the orchestrator of the alleged scheme.

Additionally, the tape does not indicate whether Trump was specifically concerned with the impact of the story on the upcoming 2016 presidential election, something that Cohen testified to, but which was contradicted by at least one other witness.

“Women are going to hate me…Guys may think it’s cool, but this is going to be a disaster for the campaign,” Cohen claims Trump said in relation to the Stormy Daniels allegations.

“This was all about the campaign,” Cohen told the jury, according to CNN.

Yet, the jurors have still not seen proof that Trump himself uttered these or any other words explaining his motivations. Legal expert Alan Dershowitz, a former Harvard professor, says this is what the prosecutors would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

“Well, only the points that [Cohen] made that could conceivably relate to the case, namely that [Trump] was more interested in the politics, and the political implications, the electoral implications, than in protecting his wife, or protecting his brand. That hasn't been mentioned enough, Trump was very concerned about protecting his brand, the Trump brand,” Dershowitz told the Monday edition of “Just the News, No Noise” television show.

“Well, only the points that he made that could conceivably relate to the case, namely that he was more interested in the politics, and the political implications, the electoral implications, then in protecting his wife, or protecting his brand, and hasn't been mentioned enough, Trump was very concerned about protecting his brand, the Trump brand,” he added.

Cohen’s testimony and the details on the secret recording follow testimony from other witnesses who contradicted the building blocks of Bragg’s case, including the former controller of the Trump Organization, Jeffrey McConney, and Trump communications aide Hope Hicks.

Last week, McConney, who served in the Trump Organization for more than 20 years, testified that Trump did not direct him to make any of the legal expenses payments to Cohen that Bragg alleges were falsely represented.

“President Trump did not ask you to do any of the things you just described ... correct?” Trump’s lawyer asked McConney of the reimbursements to Cohen.

“He did not," McConney answered.

Hope Hicks, who worked closely with Trump on communications, also delivered testimony that contradicted a key pillar of Bragg’s case. She told the court that her former boss was primarily motivated by sparing his wife, Melania Trump, and family members from having to deal with the public attention that would come from accusations that her husband had an affair with an adult film actress.

“I don't think he wanted anyone in his family to be hurt or embarrassed by anything that happened on the campaign," Hicks said under cross examination from Trump’s lawyers, according to Business Insider. "He wanted them to be proud of him.”

Hicks also testified that Cohen was not “looped in on the day-to-day” operations of the presidential campaign. Despite this, he claimed this week that his ex-boss’ motivation was was the campaign and how the news would impact his support with the voters.

Cohen’s testimony is set to be juxtaposed with testimony from his former lawyer, Bob Costello, who is set to appear before the House Judiciary Committee Wednesday.

Costello will reiterate what he told Just the News previously about his client, that Cohen repeatedly denied having any incriminating evidence on his former boss. He even refused flip on Trump and provide information on alleged crimes even at the lowest point of his life, while suicidal after federal prosecutors raided his law office, in order to avoid his life being ruined by criminal charges.

This, Costello will say in his opening statement obtained by Just the News, shows that Cohen really had nothing to convince a jury that Trump had a master plan to manipulate the 2020 election through fraudulent means.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
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To: Engedi

I have a hard time believing Trump the germ freak boinked her

McDougal is more believable and far prettier and feminine

Stormy is manly strong physique

And has done literally all porn genre


21 posted on 05/15/2024 8:02:53 AM PDT by wardaddy (. A disease in the public mind we’re enduring…Alina Habba is fine as grits I'd drink her bathwater)
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To: Red Badger
Trump should have demanded a televised trial.

Judge and prosecutor would have said no, which would have given Trump a perfect opening to accuse them of personal cowardice and political motivation.

I like the image of Trump refusing to show up if the trial was not televised, and the judge and prosecutor threatening to have Trump dragged into the court room by marshals.

The fact that Conservative Americans must depend on the politically corrupt MSM to disseminate trial news is politically insane.

22 posted on 05/15/2024 8:08:39 AM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: Blue Highway

I have seen the instructions given in the open court.

And sometimes it sounds like: You can’t think for yourself, you must only think like I say.

I will interpret the application of this law, and it is the only application you can consider.

I think if a juror reads the law that applies to the charge, and says this does not fit, or some such, the judge will remove that juror.


23 posted on 05/15/2024 8:20:16 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Running Rampant, and not endorsing nonsense; My pronoun is EXIT.)
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To: mware

Unless you’re Fani Willis and announce proudly to the whole country during a hearing that you keep cash from your campaign to fund stuff like sex vacations with the prosecutor you appointed...


24 posted on 05/15/2024 8:21:03 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: bray

THAT is the REAL PAIRING, IMO.


25 posted on 05/15/2024 8:42:58 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: bray

Follow up question:

HOW did Cohen get a loan on property that should be in both his & his WIFE’S names???

Wouldn’t BOTH NEED TO SIGN???

DID COHEN FORGE THOSE PAPERS????


26 posted on 05/15/2024 8:44:14 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: Scrambler Bob

THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT 2 JURORS ARE ATTORNEYS, IIRC.


27 posted on 05/15/2024 8:45:53 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: Engedi

Yes. Theycan


28 posted on 05/15/2024 8:48:09 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: Red Badger
Like the glove too small to fit OJ Simpson

The glove was not too small to fit O.J.’s hand. They had him wearing rubber gloves. He then tried, with exaggerated and comic awkwardness, to put the leather gloves on over top.

Go get a pair of leather gloves that fit you, and then try putting them on while wearing rubber gloves, and see how much they don't “fit”. The whole O.J. trial was a joke.

29 posted on 05/15/2024 8:51:16 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell>)
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To: Red Badger

watching the local Miami Florida tv “news”, one would think the prosecution and Stormy and Cohen have proven their case 10,000 times over.

Barely a mention of the defense poking holes everywhere.


30 posted on 05/15/2024 8:54:41 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: mware

it sounds like if he paid out of campaign it would be illegal

and bragg is saying it is illegal to not pay out of campaign

damned if you do....


31 posted on 05/15/2024 8:59:30 AM PDT by joshua c
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To: Red Badger

BTTT


32 posted on 05/15/2024 9:16:20 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: GMThrust
how does lying about business records cover up a conspiracy in the election?

There are several unresolved issues that prevent clearly answering that question:

  1. It's just an assumption that "covering up a conspiracy in the election" is the underlying crime. Bragg has not stated the underlying crime in the charging document that allowed him to revive the expired records charges, and the judge has not cited any specific NY State code that President Trump is supposed to have been furthering by falsifying records. Without that, he can't put on a defense against the "furthered crime." Without a furthered crime, Trump's lawyers will ask the judge to dismiss the case because the remaining misdemeanor bookkeeping charges are past their statute of limitations.

  2. Bragg is being purposefully vague about the crime in the hopes that people will make their own assumptions about what the crime is and find President Trump guilty of that. That's why he put on Stephanie Clifford, not to talk about any crime but to paint Trump as a "bad guy" who must be guilty of SOMETHING.

  3. Booking the payments to Cohen as legal expenses is not a crime. Usually, lawyers are paid on retainer, that is, up-front money to "retain" the lawyer's services so that the lawyer is no longer available to take on any clients that might be a part of the case (i.e., conflict of interest). The lawyer then bills the client after services are rendered, and money from the retainer is then moved to personal or business accounts as earned income. If the retainer gets used up, the client can pay an additional retainer to keep the lawyer, or terminate the relationship.

    This means that at the time of paying the retainer, how that money is specifically used is unknown until the lawyer bills the client. Booking the retainer as "legal expense" is appropriate because it's an advance payment for future unspecified (but generally expected) services.

    Bragg wants people to believe that President Trump's payments were part of a plot to launder campaign funds as personal expenses to pay off Clifford (and Karen McDougal), but the Cohen tapes show that Cohen was the mastermind of the scheme and that Trump was unaware of the payments or the method of payment. What's suggested by the recording is that Trump paid retainers and was unaware of the specific billings by Cohen as he spent the retainers. Cohen made decisions on how he spent the retainer on his own initiative and there was no conspiracy by Trump and others to further any crimes.

-PJ
33 posted on 05/15/2024 9:16:55 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: mware

“If he was protecting Trump why didn’t he tell Trump he was taping the conversation. Doesn’t make any sense.”

It makes perfect sense. Trump wanted to pay in cash. Cohen insisted on leaving a paper trail. It was a set up from the very beginning. I hope Trump has developed better judgment for those whom he chooses to trust... from now on.


34 posted on 05/15/2024 9:19:44 AM PDT by Danie_2023
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To: Engedi

Could be wrong but I don’t think it was permitted by judge.


35 posted on 05/15/2024 10:52:56 AM PDT by mware
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To: Sicon

Try putting the gloves if they have been soaked with blood and then dry. They shrink.


36 posted on 05/15/2024 10:55:21 AM PDT by mware
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To: Danie_2023

Trump NEVER paid in cash.Always check.


37 posted on 05/15/2024 10:58:23 AM PDT by mware
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To: mware

Seems from Bragg’s point of view then anything either Trump does or fails to do is illegal.


38 posted on 05/15/2024 11:31:16 AM PDT by AndyTheBear (Certified smarter than average for my species)
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To: AndyTheBear

Catch 22, yup.


39 posted on 05/15/2024 11:36:22 AM PDT by mware
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To: mware

“Trump NEVER paid in cash.Always check.”

But... wasn’t this (below) on one of the recordings Cohen made, and if so... looks like Trump wanted to pay cash in this instance. Did I misunderstand?

“Listen. What financing?” Trump asked.

“We’ll have to pay,” Cohen said.

“So I’ll pay with cash,” Trump insisted.


40 posted on 05/15/2024 12:29:39 PM PDT by Danie_2023
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