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Trump trial's OJ glove moment: Cohen tape undercuts prosecutors’ main story to jurors
Just The News ^ | May 14, 2024 | John Solomon and Steven Richards

Posted on 05/15/2024 6:35:10 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Engedi

I have a hard time believing Trump the germ freak boinked her

McDougal is more believable and far prettier and feminine

Stormy is manly strong physique

And has done literally all porn genre


21 posted on 05/15/2024 8:02:53 AM PDT by wardaddy (. A disease in the public mind we’re enduring…Alina Habba is fine as grits I'd drink her bathwater)
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To: Red Badger
Trump should have demanded a televised trial.

Judge and prosecutor would have said no, which would have given Trump a perfect opening to accuse them of personal cowardice and political motivation.

I like the image of Trump refusing to show up if the trial was not televised, and the judge and prosecutor threatening to have Trump dragged into the court room by marshals.

The fact that Conservative Americans must depend on the politically corrupt MSM to disseminate trial news is politically insane.

22 posted on 05/15/2024 8:08:39 AM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: Blue Highway

I have seen the instructions given in the open court.

And sometimes it sounds like: You can’t think for yourself, you must only think like I say.

I will interpret the application of this law, and it is the only application you can consider.

I think if a juror reads the law that applies to the charge, and says this does not fit, or some such, the judge will remove that juror.


23 posted on 05/15/2024 8:20:16 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Running Rampant, and not endorsing nonsense; My pronoun is EXIT.)
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To: mware

Unless you’re Fani Willis and announce proudly to the whole country during a hearing that you keep cash from your campaign to fund stuff like sex vacations with the prosecutor you appointed...


24 posted on 05/15/2024 8:21:03 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: bray

THAT is the REAL PAIRING, IMO.


25 posted on 05/15/2024 8:42:58 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: bray

Follow up question:

HOW did Cohen get a loan on property that should be in both his & his WIFE’S names???

Wouldn’t BOTH NEED TO SIGN???

DID COHEN FORGE THOSE PAPERS????


26 posted on 05/15/2024 8:44:14 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: Scrambler Bob

THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT 2 JURORS ARE ATTORNEYS, IIRC.


27 posted on 05/15/2024 8:45:53 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: Engedi

Yes. Theycan


28 posted on 05/15/2024 8:48:09 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: Red Badger
Like the glove too small to fit OJ Simpson

The glove was not too small to fit O.J.’s hand. They had him wearing rubber gloves. He then tried, with exaggerated and comic awkwardness, to put the leather gloves on over top.

Go get a pair of leather gloves that fit you, and then try putting them on while wearing rubber gloves, and see how much they don't “fit”. The whole O.J. trial was a joke.

29 posted on 05/15/2024 8:51:16 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell>)
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To: Red Badger

watching the local Miami Florida tv “news”, one would think the prosecution and Stormy and Cohen have proven their case 10,000 times over.

Barely a mention of the defense poking holes everywhere.


30 posted on 05/15/2024 8:54:41 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: mware

it sounds like if he paid out of campaign it would be illegal

and bragg is saying it is illegal to not pay out of campaign

damned if you do....


31 posted on 05/15/2024 8:59:30 AM PDT by joshua c
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To: Red Badger

BTTT


32 posted on 05/15/2024 9:16:20 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: GMThrust
how does lying about business records cover up a conspiracy in the election?

There are several unresolved issues that prevent clearly answering that question:

  1. It's just an assumption that "covering up a conspiracy in the election" is the underlying crime. Bragg has not stated the underlying crime in the charging document that allowed him to revive the expired records charges, and the judge has not cited any specific NY State code that President Trump is supposed to have been furthering by falsifying records. Without that, he can't put on a defense against the "furthered crime." Without a furthered crime, Trump's lawyers will ask the judge to dismiss the case because the remaining misdemeanor bookkeeping charges are past their statute of limitations.

  2. Bragg is being purposefully vague about the crime in the hopes that people will make their own assumptions about what the crime is and find President Trump guilty of that. That's why he put on Stephanie Clifford, not to talk about any crime but to paint Trump as a "bad guy" who must be guilty of SOMETHING.

  3. Booking the payments to Cohen as legal expenses is not a crime. Usually, lawyers are paid on retainer, that is, up-front money to "retain" the lawyer's services so that the lawyer is no longer available to take on any clients that might be a part of the case (i.e., conflict of interest). The lawyer then bills the client after services are rendered, and money from the retainer is then moved to personal or business accounts as earned income. If the retainer gets used up, the client can pay an additional retainer to keep the lawyer, or terminate the relationship.

    This means that at the time of paying the retainer, how that money is specifically used is unknown until the lawyer bills the client. Booking the retainer as "legal expense" is appropriate because it's an advance payment for future unspecified (but generally expected) services.

    Bragg wants people to believe that President Trump's payments were part of a plot to launder campaign funds as personal expenses to pay off Clifford (and Karen McDougal), but the Cohen tapes show that Cohen was the mastermind of the scheme and that Trump was unaware of the payments or the method of payment. What's suggested by the recording is that Trump paid retainers and was unaware of the specific billings by Cohen as he spent the retainers. Cohen made decisions on how he spent the retainer on his own initiative and there was no conspiracy by Trump and others to further any crimes.

-PJ
33 posted on 05/15/2024 9:16:55 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: mware

“If he was protecting Trump why didn’t he tell Trump he was taping the conversation. Doesn’t make any sense.”

It makes perfect sense. Trump wanted to pay in cash. Cohen insisted on leaving a paper trail. It was a set up from the very beginning. I hope Trump has developed better judgment for those whom he chooses to trust... from now on.


34 posted on 05/15/2024 9:19:44 AM PDT by Danie_2023
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To: Engedi

Could be wrong but I don’t think it was permitted by judge.


35 posted on 05/15/2024 10:52:56 AM PDT by mware
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To: Sicon

Try putting the gloves if they have been soaked with blood and then dry. They shrink.


36 posted on 05/15/2024 10:55:21 AM PDT by mware
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To: Danie_2023

Trump NEVER paid in cash.Always check.


37 posted on 05/15/2024 10:58:23 AM PDT by mware
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To: mware

Seems from Bragg’s point of view then anything either Trump does or fails to do is illegal.


38 posted on 05/15/2024 11:31:16 AM PDT by AndyTheBear (Certified smarter than average for my species)
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To: AndyTheBear

Catch 22, yup.


39 posted on 05/15/2024 11:36:22 AM PDT by mware
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To: mware

“Trump NEVER paid in cash.Always check.”

But... wasn’t this (below) on one of the recordings Cohen made, and if so... looks like Trump wanted to pay cash in this instance. Did I misunderstand?

“Listen. What financing?” Trump asked.

“We’ll have to pay,” Cohen said.

“So I’ll pay with cash,” Trump insisted.


40 posted on 05/15/2024 12:29:39 PM PDT by Danie_2023
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