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Biden 'is offering Israel top secret intelligence detailing exact locations of Hamas leaders and their hidden tunnels in bid to stave off full-scale invasion of Rafah'
Daily Mail ^ | 5/11/24 | James Gordon

Posted on 05/12/2024 4:20:30 AM PDT by Libloather

Biden administration officials are said to be offering Israel exact locations of Hamas leaders in a bid to stop the IDF invading the Gazan city of Rafah.

The president has reportedly offered highly-classified information that also includes the locations of Hamas' secret tunnels to try and stave-off what he fears could be a humanitarian catastrophe.

The detailed and sensitive talks serve to illustrate the stakes facing Israel and the U.S. Rafah is the last city in Gaza that has not been bombed by Israel.

According to the Washington Post, the U.S. is also proposing to assist in the construction of thousands of shelters to create tent cities and help with the setting up of delivery systems for vital supplies like food, water, and medicine.

This support will help ensure that 1.3 Palestinians that fled and were already evacuated from other parts of Gaza under Israeli orders and now sheltering in Rafah have access to livable conditions, rather than being exposed to further hardship.

Israel has promised an invasion using 'extreme force' - something the Biden administration is particularly concerned about, particularly given the already dire humanitarian situation in Gaza. The current goal is to essentially prevent unnecessary destruction and minimize harm to civilians.

Israeli says it must go into Rafah in order to complete the job of wiping out Hamas.

But the job is easier said than done as destroying city's extensive underground tunnel network where many Hamas fighters and leaders are based, would endanger the lives of tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians.

'We have serious concerns about how Israel has prosecuted this campaign, and that could all come to a head in Rafah,' a senior administration official said.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: edwinland

This place needs two dozen Caterpillar D11s to push it off into the damned East River.


61 posted on 05/12/2024 5:54:29 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Libloather
The president has reportedly offered highly-classified information that also includes the locations of Hamas' secret tunnels ...

Wait - what? We've had the exact location of Hamas monsters AND their tunnels and we haven't shared it with Israel? We have blood on our hands... well, blood on Biden's hands...

62 posted on 05/12/2024 5:57:11 AM PDT by GOPJ ( MSNBC ghouls pretend their 'base' is elites - it's why Biden won't campaign in the black community.)
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To: Angelino97
Failures of intel operations are not rare. Even Mossad has admitted that it was aware of an attack by Hamas before it happened.
Israeli officials obtained Hamas’s battle plan for the Oct. 7 terrorist attack more than a year before it happened, documents, emails and interviews show. But Israeli military and intelligence officials dismissed the plan as aspirational, considering it too difficult for Hamas to carry out.

Source: NY Times


63 posted on 05/12/2024 5:58:16 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a closed mind will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: zeestephen
The claim was extensively made during the 2000s, with many websites and print articles reporting it, others disputing it.

There might be several books about it, though the only one I read was The Terror Enigma: 9/11 and the Israeli Connection.

There was a famous four-part Fox News report in late 2001, which touched on the issue of Israeli spies, posing as art students, following the hijackers. The ADL pressured Fox into removing it from their site, but it's sometimes re-uploaded to other sites. I downloaded it and have copies.

You can also search such terms as "Art students 9/11 urban moving dancing Israelis" and see what comes up, both pro and con.

64 posted on 05/12/2024 6:00:57 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Libloather

This is for domestic consumption to give the illusion that Obama and his puppet Biden are not offering aid and comfort to Hamas.


65 posted on 05/12/2024 6:05:45 AM PDT by PTBAA
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To: Libloather

How would the US know anything about Hamas that Mossad didn’t already know?


66 posted on 05/12/2024 6:06:16 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (Kafka was an optimist.)
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To: Libloather

Oh, this is good. Tell the enemy that we know exactly where you are and someone is coming to get you. This should work out well.


67 posted on 05/12/2024 6:08:27 AM PDT by Flint
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To: Libloather

Bibi sends message no thanks we already know where they are piss off.


68 posted on 05/12/2024 6:20:49 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: RoosterRedux

What I was going to say. Our intel community has become compromised with obomites.


69 posted on 05/12/2024 6:21:47 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Angelino97
One additional note.

IIRC, the 911 Commission Report went right up to the edge of concluding that the CIA had actionable intelligence about the 911 attacks. Though the 911 Commission Report did not accuse the CIA of knowing the exact day of the attack in advance, it did conclude that the CIA could have and should have known, given the intel it had, that this attack was imminent.

This has been addressed by many former CIA officers (that the CIA had enough intel to act but didn't).

70 posted on 05/12/2024 6:32:10 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a closed mind will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: Libloather

DOUBLE CROSSING BASTARDS


71 posted on 05/12/2024 6:36:57 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: Libloather

So, Obama knows the location of terrorists and isn’t sharing it unless they stop hunting the terrorist?


72 posted on 05/12/2024 6:42:10 AM PDT by Mlheureux
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To: Libloather

Israel has one of the best intelligence programs/people In the busin3ss. It would be odd if Israel didn’t already know about the “secret tunnels”


73 posted on 05/12/2024 6:57:11 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Libloather

I don’t think US intelligence can tell the Israelis anything they don’t already know.


74 posted on 05/12/2024 7:10:27 AM PDT by beethovenfan (The REAL Great Reset will be when Jesus returns. )
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To: Libloather

Sorry, I’m calling fake news. Israel has one of the best intelligence organizations in the world and they are on home turf…our intelligence is better? C’mon, think about it.


75 posted on 05/12/2024 7:19:26 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (Accepting a false premise initiates conversational defeat.)
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To: Libloather

If this is true, it should never be public knowledge. Never, not in any way.


76 posted on 05/12/2024 7:35:19 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (The Democrat breadlines will be gluten-free. )
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To: Libloather

Israel will not bomb Michigan and Minnesota, and he knows it...
So that’s useless info...


77 posted on 05/12/2024 7:36:07 AM PDT by SuperLuminal ( Where is Samuel Adams when we so desperately need him)
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To: Libloather
The October 7 attack on Israel was not an intelligence failure in the traditional sense...

October 7 was the largest suicide terror attack in recent memory.

(1) The entire nation of Israel had been on High Alert for seven days before and after the Yom Kippur holiday. October 7th was the first weekend that thousands of military and Police personnel had off after working for three consecutive weekends.

(2) There was no prior electronic intelligence available. Hamas has (had) a hard wired land line communication system installed in their extensive underground tunnels.

(3) Every day, thousands of Gaza day laborers assemble at official crossing points into Israel. On October 7, about 2,000 shock troops, almost all of them in work clothes and civilian vehicles, gathered near or at official crossing points.

(4) In the first 10-15 minutes, hundreds of rockets were fired at the IDF frontier outposts. Hundreds more were fired at Israeli population centers.

(5) Most of the 2,000 initial invaders were amphetamine fueled, teenage, shock troops. They were followed by 500 or more hostage takers and logistic troops.

(6) To my knowledge, not one Hamas military officer was killed or captured. It appears that 100% of the Hamas officer corps never left Gaza.

(7) In spite of total surprise, the deepest Hamas penetration into Israel was 2.9 miles, to a lightly defended, outdoor, weekend, music festival. The festival had private security, which ran out of ammunition in the first 20 minutes. By Israeli law, private security is limited by weapon type and amount of ammunition.

(8) 1,500 Hamas invaders - more than 50% of the total - were dead within 24 hours. As far as I know, the number of captured terrorists has never been released or published.

78 posted on 05/12/2024 8:00:13 AM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: Angelino97
Re: "There was a famous four-part Fox News report in late 2001...The ADL pressured Fox into removing it from their site..."

Hard to believe. However, times have changed.

In 2024, the only country the neo-Marxist ADL hates more than the USA is the nation of Israel.

79 posted on 05/12/2024 8:44:59 AM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: Angelino97
What did the CIA know about 9/11?

Local FBI agents were aware of Saudi men training to fly passenger jets while being indifferent about learning to land the planes. The reports were sent to DC and ignored.
80 posted on 05/12/2024 9:12:09 AM PDT by Colinsky
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