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Outrage erupts when authorities toss 2 farmers in prison on 30-day sentences . ( Pennsylvania )
WND News Center ^ | May 3, 2024 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 05/04/2024 5:40:56 AM PDT by george76

Authorities claim there's no need for sentencing hearing, bail option..

A state legal action in Pennsylvania is sparking outrage .. for the result it demanded: Two farmers arrested and jailed on 30-day sentences with no sentencing hearing and no option for bail.

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Their lawyer, Robert Barnes, charges, "This is the craziest thing I've every seen."

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This is an unlawful civil contempt order. There are certain procedures that must be followed in a civil contempt action and to our knowledge those were not followed here. Even if they had been followed, the maximum allowable punishment is 15 days in jail which must be conditional, with keys to your own jail cell โ€“ meaning there is a condition you can meet to immediately end your incarceration. None of that is true in this case.

The state claims this is a punishment for not complying with a subpoena to turn over documents, but an agency canโ€™t just order anyone to turn over any document they please. For a subpoena to be valid, the jurisdictional validity of the subpoena must be established, and it has not been in this case. Both men had sought the advice of an attorney regarding the case and had been told that the Veterinary Medical Board had no jurisdiction over them, that the subpoena was therefore invalid, and that there was nothing Ethan and Rusty needed to do.

There is no evidence that Ethan or Rusty ever saw the order the state claims to have mailed to them last August which threatened them with arrest if they did not comply.

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his clients were "denied the ability to see the case against them or NoBull Solutions because the state had the docket sealed and hidden

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania; War
KEYWORDS: 5a; 5thamendment; agriculture; barnes; bloggers; familyfarmers; farm; farmers; fifthamendment; nobail; nosentencinghearing; paping; pennsylvania; robertbarnes; waronfamilyfarmers; waronfarmers; waronfarms; waronfood
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To: george76

Commie Gov. Josh shapiro shutting down more businesses.


21 posted on 05/04/2024 6:43:31 AM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: george76

“There are certain procedures that must be followed in a civil contempt action”! Dream on there bub! He must believe we live in a republic or something................


22 posted on 05/04/2024 6:53:40 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this๐Ÿ’ฉ? ๐Ÿšซ๐Ÿ’‰! ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‘!)
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To: george76

A couple of tyrant about to lose their licenses to practice for abuse of power and illegal confinement?


23 posted on 05/04/2024 6:59:34 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: george76

No victim no crime.


24 posted on 05/04/2024 7:00:24 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: This I Wonder32460
I would think a document like this would require a signature upon delivery to certify it was delivered.

There's a $3.65 charge for that. Even though PA is bragging about a huge budget surplus, they apparently can't afford this.

25 posted on 05/04/2024 7:01:55 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Nothing says "Democracy" like throwing your opponents in jail.)
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To: Fido969

Sadly if you get a phone call saying a warrant has been issued for you and you had better pay up, NOW, it is a scam. So no wonder people would ignore any such things, even in the mail, from the authorities. So many advertisements come in disguised in a government style envelope today.

Government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is force! Like fire it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action.—George Washington.


26 posted on 05/04/2024 7:01:56 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is force!--G. Washington)
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To: george76; Liz; SunkenCiv; Red Badger

Funny. NO ORIGINAL FUNDAMENTAL CRIME against the public was ever mentioned in this entire article.

Implied- but not stated- is some state vet inspection. But, you see, these are white male business men. Not illegal aliens or BLM rioters or favored sexual deviants.


27 posted on 05/04/2024 7:02:02 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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To: george76

This is more evidence of the administration’s order to target dairy farmers and cattle ranchers.

I hope someone is tracking all these cases.

Locally, I’d label it ‘rubber hose time’.


28 posted on 05/04/2024 7:08:41 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: george76
There is no evidence that Ethan or Rusty ever saw the order the state claims to have mailed to them last August which threatened them with arrest if they did not comply.

I sent a credit card payment to Pennsylvania a couple of months ago through the US postal service. It took two weeks to get there.

It's common knowledge that a lot of US mail is stolen in Filthadelphia.

I'm now having to make plans to avoid sending mail through that center of corruption and thievery.

29 posted on 05/04/2024 7:18:18 AM PDT by kiryandil (Democrat Party operatives! Attack Kristi Noem because she's an effective woman!)
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To: This I Wonder32460
Items are lost going through the postal service.

Yes, ESPECIALLY in Pennsylvania.

see my post #29

30 posted on 05/04/2024 7:20:11 AM PDT by kiryandil (Democrat Party operatives! Attack Kristi Noem because she's an effective woman!)
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To: Robert A Cook PE
"We want to get the truth out," Dr. Croushore continued.

"Ultrasound of cows to diagnose pregnancy is veterinary medicine. There are exemptions for farmers to do that and that's very important because there are a lot of farmers who do this on their own and have employees trained to do that. I have clients that do that and that is perfectly, perfectly legal. No farmer, or employee of a farm should be afraid of getting hauled off to jail for doing this."

Different source. Charges are for ignoring requests for information.

31 posted on 05/04/2024 7:20:22 AM PDT by gloryblaze
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To: george76

This is a turf war started by the Pennsylvania Board of Veterinary Medicine over whether or not ultrasounds on cows constitutes the practice of veterinary medicine.

Get this. An individual or his employee may do ultrasounds on his cattle, but he can’t contract with a company that specializes in bovine ultrasounds because that contractor would be illegally practicing vet medicine.

Regulatory overreach strikes again.


32 posted on 05/04/2024 7:21:44 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: Fido969
Mails a notice, and if there is no response then a warrant goes out automatically.

Filthadelphia is notorious for stolen US mail.

33 posted on 05/04/2024 7:25:01 AM PDT by kiryandil (Democrat Party operatives! Attack Kristi Noem because she's an effective woman!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Courts are supposed to be a protector of the public against government abuse. But, instead, they have become an extended apparatus of the government.

Especially if you are facing an administrative actions, the court will not uphold a citizen’s rights, rather they are an enforcement agency of the government.


34 posted on 05/04/2024 7:31:20 AM PDT by Fido969 (Ia)
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To: lightman

Ping...


35 posted on 05/04/2024 7:43:05 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Robert Barnes is one of the best lawyers in America. He is also currently representing Amish Farmer Amos Miller who Pennsylvania is trying to shut down in a move intended to end food freedom in America....ie handing over all of Agriculture to big business.

He’s also currently representing a woman who was fired for being a whistleblower on Pfizer’s bogus “testing” of their “vaccine” which has caused so many injuries and deaths.

He’s represented Wesley Snipes when the IRS tried to imprison him for a long time on bogus charges, the supposed “dog park Karen” in NYC, Amy Cooper who had all charges against her dismissed, The Covington Kids after the corporate media lied about them and smeared them, etc etc.


36 posted on 05/04/2024 7:47:12 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: kiryandil

Post office union handled Pennsylvania ballots.. during the election fraud / steal . - look for the Union label.


37 posted on 05/04/2024 7:49:21 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Robert A Cook PE

They do ultrasounds for farm animals - cows in this instance. One of the state agencies claim this is “practicing veterinary medicine” (without a license).

This is of course, NOT considered to be practicing veterinary medicine. Its pretty common for farmers to have done to know if their cows are pregnant. Its not even a criminal statute - its civil. The court in this case could not issue a legal arrest warrant.

The suspicion is the the state agency is acting at the behest of some of the state’s veterinarians who would like to take over that business.


38 posted on 05/04/2024 7:50:36 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: logi_cal869

War on food ... Pennsylvania goes after farmers selling milk to their neighbors , too.


39 posted on 05/04/2024 7:52:06 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Maybe they were flying Trump flags and thus the authorities think no warrant is necessary.


40 posted on 05/04/2024 7:53:52 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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