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Florida HOA president pulls gun on 3 kids fishing at lake before throwing tackle into woods: court docs
Fox News ^ | May 2, 2024 | Greg Wehner

Posted on 05/03/2024 9:47:08 PM PDT by george76

Kyle Tate is charged with grand theft and criminal mischief...

A Palm Bay, Florida Homeowners Association board member was arrested last month after allegedly pulling a gun on three kids fishing at a lake in his subdivision, taking their equipment and throwing the rods, reels and tackle into the woods..

Police charged 57-year-old Kyle Patrick Tate with criminal mischief and grand theft as a result of the incident.

A court affidavit filed in Brevard County, Florida alleges that on April 14, officers with the Palm Bay Police Department were dispatched to a suspicious incident at Stillwater Lakes, a subdivision owned and managed by an HOA.

FOX 35 in Orlando confirmed Tate is the president of the community’s HOA.

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The responding officers spoke with three kids who were fishing on the south side of the lake in Stillwater Lakes, who said a man, later identified as Tate, walked up to them while holding a firearm and telling them to get off his property.

But the property belonged to the HOA, not Tate, according to police.

Still, Tate grabbed their fishing rods, reels, tackle boxes and other equipment, before throwing the equipment into the woods and damaging them.

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The kids told police they estimated the fishing rods and reels to be valued at $1,900; the tackle boxes and lures inside to be valued at $150; and cast nets to be valued at $150.

Tate also allegedly took a phone valued at around $1,500 from one of the kids, which has not yet been recovered,

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: armed; armedrobbery; banglist; brevard; brevardcounty; crime; florida; hoa; hoapresident; orlando; palmbay; robbery
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To: george76

HOA, a socialist plan to tell you what you can do with your property. I’ll never buy a house in an HOA...


61 posted on 05/04/2024 6:14:03 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Guns don't kill people, LIBERALS DO!! Support the Second Amendment...)
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To: george76

$1900? My fishing rig consisted of a cane pole, a few feet of line with a float, sinker, and hook, plus a box of crickets for bait. Fun times.


62 posted on 05/04/2024 6:15:58 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: yldstrk

Thankfully you did. I’m very happy for you.


63 posted on 05/04/2024 6:17:23 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: gundog
But there are so few places to fish in Florida...

I know...so few..I wonder why Reel Animal show (a fishing/boating/hunting on WFLA radio) didn't talk about this moron as their Jackmoron of the week today.

64 posted on 05/04/2024 6:35:15 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Guns don't kill people, LIBERALS DO!! Support the Second Amendment...)
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To: srmanuel
which if true it’s incumbent on the owner to tell the kids to leave.

He had every right to tell them to leave.

Did he have the right to ORDER them to leave? The answer is unclear, and almost certainly "no."

Did he have the right, under any circumstances, to commit an armed robbery?

65 posted on 05/04/2024 6:36:22 AM PDT by Pilsner
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

As agent of the HOA, the HOA common property was technically “his”.

If the “kids” were Black, he had justification for fearing retaliation and brandished a gun. It was after all three against one.

There is an issue across the nation with squatters. That is by allowing the “kids” to remain he was in effect setting a precedent for others to come occupy the HOA grounds.

However legalities aside, a more diplomatic resolution would have been preferable


66 posted on 05/04/2024 6:45:05 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: bk1000
$1900? My fishing rig consisted of a cane pole, a few feet of line with a float, sinker, and hook, plus a box of crickets for bait.

A cane pole? Luxury! My fishing of consists scrap line dug out of a waterside trash can, wrapped around a water bottle, also dug out of the trash can.


67 posted on 05/04/2024 6:45:12 AM PDT by Pilsner
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To: bert

“Black?” You’re really going to go there? In this instance to quasi justify the brandishing of a firearm by an HOA tyrant on children fishing? That’s what you’re going with?


68 posted on 05/04/2024 7:01:31 AM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: Jarhead9297

Oh yes. In the absence of more knowledge, Black has to be a primary consideration


69 posted on 05/04/2024 7:03:53 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: Pilsner

How many times do I have to repeat that he was stupid for pulling a gun, he absolutely every right to ORDER them to leave.

It’s possible the people were not violating the rules by fishing, if the rules prohibit fishing, it’s incumbent to for the owner to tell them to leave, order them to leave or whatever you want to call it.


70 posted on 05/04/2024 7:07:40 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: Liz

I wouldn’t have called the cops...


71 posted on 05/04/2024 7:18:12 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: george76

“The kids told police they estimated the fishing rods and reels to be valued at $1,900”

WHOA!


72 posted on 05/04/2024 7:31:11 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: srmanuel
...he absolutely every right to ORDER them to leave.

OK Francis. Take a breath. Your take matches the mugshot perfectly.

73 posted on 05/04/2024 8:14:45 AM PDT by Fairhairedboy (MAGA)
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To: srmanuel
1-2-3-4-exhale. Relieve the tension.


74 posted on 05/04/2024 8:18:48 AM PDT by Fairhairedboy (MAGA)
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To: Fairhairedboy

I’ll gladly accept that description versus a person where rules and property rights are fluid and negotiable


75 posted on 05/04/2024 8:19:21 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: george76

Kudos to those kids, if their fishing rods were worth $1900. Not saying the weren’t, Florida kids know good equipment.
I think they undervalued their cast nets, depending upon what they had, those can cost a lot also.


76 posted on 05/04/2024 8:20:11 AM PDT by Fireone (Who killed Obama's chef?)
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To: george76

A gun? Our HOA has not gone that far yet. All I have to deal with are the security cameras and license plate readers at the two ‘hood entrances. They were installed after a murder during a drug deal gone wrong up on the main road thru here. I guess armed guards will be next. (Believe me, people went batSchiff crazy after the killing ...calling for entry gates, armed guards, drone surveillance, neighborhood watches.)


77 posted on 05/04/2024 8:35:52 AM PDT by moovova ("The NEXT ELECTION is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: srmanuel
Nearly every body for freshwater in Florida is likely at some point to have an alligator take up residence, if a kid were attacked by a Gator. . .

Yikes, I had no idea 'gators were spread so wide. Sounds like they need some lead-based control!

78 posted on 05/04/2024 9:19:38 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: SamuraiScot

What happens at the end of breeding season, the younger males have flee because the older males are territorial and will eat the young ones, so the younger males follow water and eventually end up in freshwater areas they don’t belong


79 posted on 05/04/2024 9:24:54 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: Right Brother
Looks like a cross between Jim Gaffigan and James Carville.

Genuine LOL!

80 posted on 05/04/2024 9:28:11 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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