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Justice Thomas Raises Scrutiny On Special Counsel Jack Smith's Appointment In Trump Hearing
Epoch Times ^ | 04/28/2024 | Naveen Arthappully

Posted on 04/28/2024 9:13:08 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has asked former President Donald Trump’s lawyers about whether they challenged special counsel Jack Smith’s authority to bring charges against the president.

On April 25, the U.S. Supreme Court heard oral arguments in a case about President Trump being immune from prosecution for official acts carried out during his presidency. During the hearing, Justice Thomas asked John Sauer, the attorney who represented Trump in court, “Did you, in this litigation, challenge the appointment of special counsel?” Mr. Smith was appointed to the case by Attorney General Merrick Garland.

Mr. Sauer said that Trump attorneys have not raised such concerns “directly” in the current case at the Supreme Court. However, “it points to a very important issue here, because one of [the prosecution’s] arguments is, of course, that we should have this presumption of regularity,” Sauer stated.

“That runs into the reality that we have here an extraordinary prosecutorial power being exercised by someone who was never nominated by the president or confirmed by the Senate at any time. … We hadn’t raised it yet in this case when this case went up on appeal.”

Mr. Sauer said he agrees with the “analysis provided by Attorney General [Edwin] Meese and Attorney General [Michael B.] Mukasey,” referring to the amicus brief the two former attorneys general submitted to the Supreme Court on March 19.

In it, the two attorneys general noted that irrespective of what one thinks about the immunity issue, Mr. Smith “does not have authority to conduct the underlying prosecution.”

“Those actions can be taken only by persons properly appointed as federal officers to properly created federal offices. Smith wields tremendous power, and effectively answers to no one,” they wrote.

“However, neither Smith nor the position of special counsel under which he purportedly acts meets those criteria. And that is a serious problem for the rule of law, whatever one may think of the conduct at issue in Smith’s prosecution.”

Attorney General Garland appointed Mr. Smith as Special Counsel of the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) citing several statutes.

However, none of these statutes even “remotely authorized the appointment by the Attorney General of a private citizen or government employee to receive extraordinary criminal law enforcement power under the title of Special Counsel.”

The two attorneys general added there are times when the appointment of a special counsel would be appropriate and that the U.S. Constitution allows for such appointments.

However, “the Attorney General cannot appoint someone never confirmed by the Senate, as a substitute United States Attorney under the title ‘special counsel,’” they added.

“Smith’s appointment was thus unlawful, as are all actions flowing from it, including his prosecution of former President Trump.”

The Case Against Trump

The U.S. Supreme Court is hearing President Trump’s immunity case as part of Mr. Smith’s indictment of the former president alleging an attempt to subvert the transfer of presidential power following the 2020 election. President Trump is charged with four criminal counts in the case.

President Trump had requested the lower courts to back his claims of presidential immunity as the actions were undertaken while he was serving as president.

After the lower courts refused to grant the request, the 45th president appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court, contending that his actions as president are covered by presidential immunity.

The Supreme Court agreed to consider the following question—“Whether and, if so, to what extent does a former president enjoy presidential immunity from criminal prosecution for conduct alleged to involve official acts during his tenure in office.”

In court, Mr. Sauer warned the justices against giving a judgment that undermines presidential immunity, noting that an American president would no longer be able to carry out his job properly if he was unsure whether his actions would trigger prosecution years after leaving office.

“The implications of the court’s decision here extend far beyond the facts of this case,” he said. “For 234 years of American history, no president was ever prosecuted for his official acts. The framers of our Constitution viewed an energetic executive as essential to securing liberty.”

“If a president can be charged, put on trial, and imprisoned for his most controversial decisions as soon as he leaves office, that looming threat will distort the president’s decision-making precisely when bold and fearless action is most needed.”

Moreover, a lack of presidential immunity will denote that every president becomes a potential candidate for extortion by political rivals while still in office, Mr. Sauer added.

“Prosecuting the president for his official acts is an innovation with no foothold in history or tradition, and is incompatible with our constitutional structure,” he said.

The Supreme Court Justices appeared skeptical about President Trump’s claims that he has the right to absolute immunity for his actions as president. However, the justices also appeared to be open to accepting that presidents have some level of immunity.

The court could decide to remand the case back to the Washington district court, with instructions for differentiating between official and private acts of a president so that additional fact-finding proceedings can be done.

Such a move would delay the former president’s trial in Washington and potentially proceedings related to three other cases as well. This gives President Trump a strategic win as he attempts to hold off cases until after the elections.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clarencethomas; immunity; jacksmith; lawfare; prosecution; scotus; trump; trumppersecution; unconstitutional
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To: DesertRhino

https://www.oann.com/newsroom/ag-ed-meese-files-amicus-with-scotus-arguing-special-counsel-jack-smith-was-illegally-appointed/


21 posted on 04/29/2024 1:22:41 AM PDT by Chgogal (To paraphrase Biden: You vote Democrat? You ain't smart.)
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To: DesertRhino

No, you’re right. I’m just wishful thinking.


22 posted on 04/29/2024 1:40:00 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Freest Republican

“One thing that it says is that the Dems destroying the lives of anyone associated with Trump has probably had a negative effect on his legal representation.”

John Eastman is the poster child for what happens to a constitutional scholar who defended Trump.


23 posted on 04/29/2024 3:08:24 AM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it n)
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To: DesertRhino

Bingo!


24 posted on 04/29/2024 3:10:40 AM PDT by lilypad
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To: DesertRhino

Just think back to Gore v Bush in 2000. That’s why there’s not a court in the country that will rule properly on the 2020 Election...or on what’s going on today.


25 posted on 04/29/2024 3:31:27 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Proudly Clinging To My Guns And My Religion)
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To: DesertRhino

This concerned me as well, especially in light of Meese brief. What are Trumps lawyers doing, or not doing, about it?


26 posted on 04/29/2024 3:49:31 AM PDT by vivenne
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To: Macho MAGA Man

I’m concerned. This one issue could stop this.


27 posted on 04/29/2024 3:51:13 AM PDT by vivenne
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To: mbrfl

Interesting angle.


28 posted on 04/29/2024 3:52:50 AM PDT by vivenne
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To: Oklahoma

Let’s see you do better. Now go milk a cow.


29 posted on 04/29/2024 3:54:30 AM PDT by vivenne
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To: kabar
The legitimacy of the Smith appointment has been challenged in the immunity and document cases by Trump’s lawyers.

Put that in your copy/paste list. You will have to repeat it 10,000 more times.

30 posted on 04/29/2024 4:00:58 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Or, raise it too early and the Dems have time to cure the defect. That may be why. In other words, sandbagging.


31 posted on 04/29/2024 4:11:17 AM PDT by maro (MAGA!)
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To: DesertRhino

I’ve been saying, all along, that Trump seems to hire attorneys based on cup size rather than legal acumen.


32 posted on 04/29/2024 4:23:47 AM PDT by Segovia
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To: Enterprise

The problem is that getting rid of Smith ends the case without addressing presidential immunity. Trumps lawyers want the ruling on immunity before they go after Smith. If they dont get immunity, then Smith is fair game, but immunity ends several cases.


33 posted on 04/29/2024 4:34:15 AM PDT by RainMan ((Democrats ... making war against America since April 12, 1861))
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To: DesertRhino
“Did you, in this litigation, challenge the appointment of special counsel?”

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The President's Counsel did not challenge it, directly, in the Presidential Immunity litigation, but rather in the more relevant litigation of whether Smith can bring charges at all. Here there was an amicus submittal, so that the Supreme Court can still review it.

From another article:

“The Florida court has yet to rule on Trump’s motion to dismiss the classified documents case due to claims that Smith was improperly appointed."

They are attacking the issue from both ends.

34 posted on 04/29/2024 4:49:20 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Macho MAGA Man
Trump’s lawyers should have raised the issue of Smith’s illegal appointment from the absolute beginning. Why didn’t they? Is it because they want to milk Trump’s pocketbook for ungodly hourly attorney fees or are they in on a scheme covertly with Jack Smith to screw Trump over?

Timing is everything. [Possibility?] If they had raised the issue last year, Biden/Garland could have changed horses early on and the trial would have been able to be scheduled in 2024. Now if they raise the issue, its too late to get a new special prosecutor in there and have the trial this year.

I hope it isn't as simple as Trump's lawyers are incompetent.

35 posted on 04/29/2024 4:56:00 AM PDT by Go Gordon (Cheaper to deport than support!)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Thank goodness we have your superior thinking to sort out the problem with the weaponized law


36 posted on 04/29/2024 4:58:32 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: DesertRhino; SeekAndFind

3.5yrs? Remind everyone again what SCOTUS+ *did* once the FISA fraud+ was ‘found out’??


37 posted on 04/29/2024 5:02:08 AM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: Lod881019

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As Ed Meese stated this correct Smith hasn’t gone through approval channels and really can do whatever he wants
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It’s OK, once We elect a few more (R)N(C), they’ll do....SOME thing or the other /s


38 posted on 04/29/2024 5:03:57 AM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: DesertRhino

YEP!


39 posted on 04/29/2024 5:04:07 AM PDT by caprock (from the flats of SE New Mexico)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

I mean Trump *always* picks the brightest/best there is, no? /s


40 posted on 04/29/2024 5:04:45 AM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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