Posted on 04/20/2024 9:50:59 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
WASHINGTON (AP) — The most significant case in decades on homelessness has reached the Supreme Court as record numbers of people in America are without a permanent place to live.
The justices on Monday will consider a challenge to rulings from a California-based appeals court that found punishing people for sleeping outside when shelter space is lacking amounts to unconstitutional cruel and unusual punishment.
A political cross section of officials in the West and California, home to nearly one-third of the nation’s homeless population, argue those decisions have restricted them from “common sense” measures intended to keep homeless encampments from taking over public parks and sidewalks.
Advocacy groups say the decisions provide essential legal protections, especially with an increasing number of people forced to sleep outdoors as the cost of housing soars.
The case before the Supreme Court comes from Grants Pass, a small city nestled in the mountains of southern Oregon, where rents are rising and there is just one overnight shelter for adults. As a growing number of tents clustered its parks, the city banned camping and set $295 fines for people sleeping there.
The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals largely blocked the camping ban under its finding that it is unconstitutional to punish people for sleeping outside when there is not adequate shelter space. Grants Pass appealed to the Supreme Court, arguing the ruling left it few good options.
“It really has made it impossible for cities to address growing encampments, and they’re unsafe, unhealthy and problematic for everyone, especially those who are experiencing homelessness,” said lawyer Theane Evangelis, who is representing Grants Pass.
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Exactly
This poster has the answer.
if I was homeless I’d welcome a trip to jail. room and board for free even get a shower.
“Fine the Homeless all you want. Most of them, if they have any money at all, spend it on drugs and booze.”
Then put them in jail where they belong. It might actually help them in the long run. At least they will have shelter. Make them work while they are there too.
South of our border is EMPTY. Make a new America. Sounds tempting.
Remember when the used to run the hobos out of town until they found out their names are good for voting.
They give them money food cards free medical and allow them to roam like cattle.
Before the mortgage industry was born a nice house could be purchased with cash. Now, most can not afford the payments to a nice house.
Record numbers are DRUGGIES that don’t want any rules.
Fixed it.
the other thing is regarding hospital bills.
did he try to work it out with accounting? patient advocacy? request funds to help out with the bills by providing source of income?
the other thing is regarding hospital bills.
did he try to work it out with accounting? patient advocacy? request funds to help out with the bills by providing source of income?
Just make it LEGAL to Camp on Public Property anywhere within 1000 feet of the Personal Residence of Any and All Officers of the Court.
I’m against the FReeper consensus on this. Fine/arrest them when/if they do drugs in public, harass other people, or go number two on a sidewalk. Crack down harder on that. But I’m not down with fining people who don’t have the money anyway just for existing and sleeping which is a biological necessity for existence. It makes no sense to me to fine those people or to lock them up. And shelters are full in a lot of major cities and no one wants to pay for or have a shelter built in their neighborhood. If that situation were different, I’d be OK with giving them the choice of the cop taking them to a shelter or fining them. But it’s not, at least in a lot of cities, so the option seems to be let them sleep or lock them ‘up. And I don’t see the point of prisons instead of shelters...
Sure if they are citizens.
The non-citizens you have to ship back to a border crossing to let MEXICO deal with the invaders that they helped enter LOUR land!
GMTA!
Nobody ever asks how we dealt with the homeless for the centuries before they suddenly became accepted and routine since the 60s and the left took control over all the issues and institutions, and laws that created them.
I feed homeless and witness to them on a daily basis.
The problem is mental illness, Its compounded by drug addiction and alcohol addiction, Compounded by the idea that they think that they are living freely and they don’t have to answer to anybody for their action.
This is not a Hallmark movie where somebody lost their job.And they’re living in a van down by the river.
90% of these people are even 99% of these people are people who want to live homeless.Because they think it’s the way that they are supposed to live.
You are correct...
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