Viktor Orban: Trump said he would force Ukraine to stop fighting Russia

Former President Donald Trump intends to end the war in Ukraine by ending the military assistance that Ukrainian forces require to fight Russia’s invasion, according to Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban.

“He has a very clear vision that is hard to disagree with. He says the following: first, he will not give a single penny for the Russo-Ukrainian war,” Orban told Hungarian state media. “That’s why the war will end, because it’s obvious that Ukraine cannot stand on its own two feet.”

Orban offered that prognostication after returning to Budapest from the United States, where he met with American conservatives at the Heritage Foundation in Washington, D.C., and visited Trump at Mar-a-Lago in Florida. Russian President Vladimir Putin’s spokesman allowed that “it is not clear” what Trump’s plan might be, but he welcomed Pope Francis’s suggestion that Ukraine show “a white flag” in a bid for peace.

Just what kind of question is that? Those weak assed bastards are fighting for their country and they will kill you using stand off weapons long before they roll over you. If Ukraine had Combined Arms, integrated Manuver, superior Air, Ground and Space like the US they might have held up better against all that Russian artillery, missile, & Air power. Russia has mastered combined arms warfare in Ukraine and they’ve got their Satellite, Air Surveillance, Counter-Counter EW and overhead night vison came on line for them in October or November 23.

I think though the NYT, the French, the Brits, Biden el at., all were quite vocal about Russia being so weak - you know they insulted the Russians with all those comments about only have shovels to fight with, no ammo, definitely no missiles, no computer chips, yada yada. Presumably you knew how weak their military really was.

Yea they went from 190k in the Spec Op and 380k total worldwide military forces in Russia to 1.1m today. I think they have 277k undergoing 5-6 combined arms warfare training at the Corps level who graduate in July/August - they’ve been turning out 300-350k every six months and they let their guys go home after two years into the reserves.

Biden knows and Zenlinski too that Russia with those shovels will have 2.1m under arms, organized into 4 independent 500k Army Corps in the middle of 2026 when the plan is to have boots on ground all across Ukriane ensuring no Bandaras are sporting SS tatoos. Russia still has 140k from the first of the year batch that came out of training men not yet committed to combat against Ukraine broken up into 30k, 40k groups just behind the front lines. We are in March, headed to April and May so all those fresh troops are going to be using shovels to exploit Ukraine.

So you ask me, why didn’t you ever blow the whistle on all of the fake stories about how powerful they were? Well they can kill you so that’s powerful enough. Besides, Feburary was the first time since this war began that Russia has nearly matched Ukraine’s troop strength. You kinda getting the drift here. RUSSIA HAS BEEN DOING MORE WITH LESS FOR TWO YEARS. So I just told you about about another quarter million Ruskie’s coming out of 5-6 months training by August 2024... and there are going to 300k more in January/Febuary 2025. It’s just like the 70’s all over again. Freaking Russia is going to have 2-1 strength instead of 1-1 next summer; getting around to January 2026 another quarter mil, then July 26 another quarter Mil.

And Russia continues to show their weakness by using a 10-1 artillery advantage and shooting 5-10x the rounds. That ain’t slowing down, but presumably you knew how weak they were and still are. Yea, they just gonna hit Ukraine will stand off weapons, then they are going to roll up under fire across open areas in masses and then close with and destroy Ukraine in very-very much weapons defensive positions using their vaunted SHOVEL’S becasue they don’t have as much equipment as Ukraine and Ukraine has better equipment with NATO intelligence to back them up.
We were always told that if we had to go up against them our commanders expected we would all be killed. Airborne Infantry fighting the Ruskies is usually Mechanized. I would never underestimate anyone from any country in battle. Our usual battle scenario was to jump into a mountain pass, to try and hold it 24-72 hours or until follow on from the 10th Mountain or the 101st arrived. We were told if we didn’t hold our positions would be nuked. I don’t think my battalion ever once defeated the OFFOR in the Desert or Mountain training. We probably game planned it 15 times in Colorado, a dozen times in California, and up in Washington. The only time we had a chance was in winter warfare in forrests. They always overrun our positions with Mech Inf. Same with tanks and mech inf. Trasping around in the woods was the only time us bad ass paratroopers could hold them. You probably don’t have any idea of an infantry company with three mortors, two antitank missiles, some LAWs and all the hand granades.... Smoke was our friend. Most of the time we were just flat assed chased and hunted down in 70s. And the worst of it was our fast movers would fly 500 meters out and light up the area to our front. Leave it to Army to always make sure on the hottest days of summer to make sure put on our Chemical Warefare gear for 8-hours and do a forced march after simulated airborne spray of chemical agents, or bio, or after a nuke.

There ain’t no fake stories about how powerful or unpowerful they are. Those bastards close with and destroy under fire in the open and there are so damn many of them.

I was an optimist though, they said four or five guys might go unscaved and mayber a 15-20 wia’s and 140+ KIAs. I figured I be one the only ones to live thru it. Young and dumb; I thought I was invincible until I was 33. I never really considered I could die, until my knees started hurting after a 7 mile run one cold October morning.

That war in Ukraine was only stalemated because NATO had 8 years to build up strategic fortified defenses in depth, underground with tunnels going miles in some places. Now that Russia has mastered the FAB (Glide Bombs) with a range beyond their original 38 km (They have been using since November 80+ km glide FABs). Now with long range stand off 500 to 1,500 lb bombs those defenses only held 6-8 weeks of taking hits. Those weak bastards now have missile tube carrier that has 15-tube FAB missiles that can do the damage of 250 pounder from 120 km.

As for pension well sometimes you do so much a grateful nation can never repay you. I combined my military and foreign service into a single check. I worked for 6 different agencies, and my wife held a TS with Army and State. She had a nice job in Israel where she ran the Arrow Missile Program Field Office.

US Equipment is the best. But our troops are now woke and those wokesters are incapable of maintianing or mastering this equipment - we are gonna need a much bigger army to have the same combat capabilities using half-assed woke soldiers. Just like the the early 1980s, Russia has caught up to the US Equipment being phased out in Ukraine... well maybe they are more than caught up with both equipment and tactics. Today Russia has still not matched Ukraine’s troop strength, but in 26 months Russia will 3-4 times more men and new equipment than Ukraine will have it they can only field 500k.

I am calling Russia out and I am going to use a locomative Whistle from Ukraine that was blown off the tracks to tell you that all the stories in the West are fake when it comes to the Russian’s combat capabilities. I have a pretty good idea of weak those sinveling bastards are to be sure with only washing machine chips and shovels Ukraine will certainly kick their sorry asses all the way to Siberia.

In all seriousness I hope you have a clue now about what’s been going on and how it’s going to play out. To be fair about this whole thing, Ukraine has had the upper hand sitting in fortified cities and behind NATOs well build overlapping fields of fire fortifications to this point. The Ukrainians have had superior numbers starting with a 5-1 advantage in combat troops, and better trained units. But Ukraine had Joe Biden and Zielinski along with 31 other nations helping them... but Furher Zielinski would never let a single soldier retreat so just like the first furher in WWII, his troops are being slaughtered by overwhelming firepower from stand off weapons. Russia is simply maintaining constant contact all along the 650 mile frontlines looking for weakness and gently pushing and prodding and waiting for that exact moment when 3-4 differnt sectors collaspe before they get Ready to Roll.

That last is an interesting speculation, and years ago I read online some interesting “alternate timelines” that pursued it.

IMO, the thing is, the basic forces and “currents”, if you will, cannot be easily denied a path to the future. It’s like trying to prevent the Mississippi River System from flowing to the Gulf of Mexico. You might be able to alter and optimize some details or timing, maybe even with great effort shift the river east or west by a state width, but that’s about it. Or maybe trying to stop a large volcanic eruption is a better analogy?

The situation in Europe in the early 1900’s was not sustainable or stable. It just wasn’t. Hell, Europe was never stable for long except maybe for the period when it was firmly under the control of the Roman Empire. The Germans in particular were still highly militaristic, and if the US hadn’t been drawn into WW1, there is nothing to suggest the Germans would have post WW1 been less militaristic. If anything they’d have come out in better shape and less inclined to change. Trade resentment (as it actually occurred) for a different delusion? The economic upheaval would have still occurred, and most everything revolving around communism and socialism (including national socialism) would have been rather similar. You might not get a focused, savage, large scale campaign against the Jews, but that’s not needed to have a recipe that blows up again. All the major ingredients were there.

It’s a somewhat different situation in 2024, but, it is highly dangerous, and not just because of Putin either...

Now I don’t particularly enjoy watching any people die.

Everyone has known for years the MSM is wholly owned subsidiary for the benefit of the DNC. Now there was a time when the DNC was opposed to war, rather than being the party using them to burn down the world with war. Now that Godless DNC has spoon fed good people their hate, their lies and many have joined the God-Hating Homosexual Humanity hating scum. They hate the police, hate different peoples because of race, hate Christians, hate conservatives, and they are collectively a group who live in Self-Defilement covering themselves with LGBT Flags, the prosecution of Christians, the prosecution of Trump or anyone they disagree, and acively push any ideas to destroy Good People’s lives and happiness. hat kind shroud words with lies, the kind who molest child, rape men and women, rob and murder, riot and destroy cities with proclaimations of Justice and Equitity. The kind that force homosexuality upon children in schools, that kind the frequent the Epstein Island’s around the country. That kind that find their only shreads of happiness in the misery of others.

I have a rather strong revulsion for those who are “of their own free will” in the clutches of evil nature and support the DNC today because even an old FDR cannot deny they belong to the Party of Abortion, Homosexuality, anti-Christian, race baiting bigots.

Getting old has left so many old democrats and non-Christians afraid of death and they want to destroy everything that is good and that will outlive themselves. They know the wages of Sin are the currency of Satan.

The old evil people know in their last years they cannot be redeemed and that they have earned that one-way ticket to hell, but those don’t have to drag all of Humanity down with them as they descent into Hell. But all they have to do is believe in God, accept Jesus as savior and some faith in the resurrection to be saved from the very hell they so justly deserve.

So you see PIF it’s a real hard slog and at the expense of my soul to throw my lot in life in with your DNC Big Tent.

Honestly, even Satan if he had a choice in the matter would get the hell out but your kind are an everyending pox of humanity. The Old God’s of antiquity die out when there are no people to worship them, yet they are revived in evil spirit by the joy of the DNC’s heart.

It’s really a simple choice isn’t it. You can support the Homosexualization of Ukraine against revived Christainity in Russia who Marxism is giving way to capitalism. There are no choices among the men who lead the nations to war, but you can choose to support the people trying to avoid the DNC Evilization of the World.

Go ahead and wrap yourself in the Rainbow flag.

The really simple part is to recognize you have been duped into believing Project Ukraine is just cause. Once you see it, you know it only ends with the death and destruction of one country or the other. NATO tried to destroy Russia. Obama set it in motion. And you jumped on board.

What you wrote, of your opinion, worth reading:

Now I don’t particularly enjoy watching any people die.
Everyone has known for years the MSM is wholly owned subsidiary for the benefit of the DNC. Now there was a time when the DNC was opposed to war, rather than being the party using them to burn down the world with war. Now that Godless DNC has spoon fed good people their hate, their lies and many have joined the God-Hating Homosexual Humanity hating scum.
They hate the police, hate different peoples because of race, hate Christians, hate conservatives, and they are collectively a group who live in Self-Defilement covering themselves with LGBT Flags, the prosecution of Christians, the prosecution of Trump or anyone they disagree, and acively push any ideas to destroy Good People’s lives and happiness.
That kind shroud words with lies, the kind who molest child, rape men and women, rob and murder, riot and destroy cities with proclaimations of Justice and Equitity. The kind that force homosexuality upon children in schools, that kind the frequent the Epstein Island’s around the country. That kind that find their only shreads of happiness in the misery of others.
Getting old has left so many old democrats and non-Christians afraid of death, and they want to destroy everything that is good and that will outlive themselves. They know the wages of Sin are the currency of Satan.
The old evil people know in their last years they cannot be redeemed, and, that they have earned that one-way ticket to hell; but those don’t have to drag all of Humanity down with them as they descent into Hell.
But all they have to do is believe in God, accept Jesus as savior and some faith in the resurrection to be saved from the very hell they so justly deserve.

You stated your opinion about life, people, politics, Democrats, and social issues, the cultural civil war, humanity and God.

That part of your writing, has content that may be effective in debate vs progressives.

“So you’re saying that you value the borders of a worthless country like Ukraine over the sanctity of the US borders?”

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I don’t understand what you mean.
The human being is able to walk while shewing gum at the same time right?

We can handle several fronts at the same time. The US military has a budget dedicated for a multi-front challenge. Thats why America’s military budget is at $880B.

Russia is in expansion mode, according to neo-colonialist doctrine.
Russia, together with its Communist allies and Islamic Iran, is attacking many of our allies, Georgia, Ukraine, Israel, Moldova soon...

Why should Russia attack all our allies with zero consequeces?
If we do nothing, it’s called war-appeasement. That always leads to global conflict. Its like letting a cancer grow, not even trying to fight it..

Russia illegally annexed parts of Ukraine (a true deeply Western European country) which capital Kiev was actually founded by the the Swedish Vikings in 882.

Russia invaded Ukraine even though it had previously officially recognized all of Ukraine’s sovereign borders (which includes Crimea).

Sweden and Finland would NEVER have entered NATO if it wasn’t for Putin’s spectacular miscalculation when he decided to rape Ukraine’ BODERS with 400.000 invading troops.

Ukrainians, Trump, and most common sense people want BORDERS respected, in America, and at the same time our allies BORDERS as well.
That’s WHY we have signed international agreements to protect each other’s BORDERS.

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