Russian Warship destroyed. Kerch bridge out

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Russian Warship destroyed. Kerch bridge out

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3-5-2024 10:00 p.m

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European Leaders Warn That War Has Returned & Prepare For War; Major Escalations

Welcome Back To Day 741 Of The News!

[JonPreston]

Take me off your ping list.

[BroJoeK]

PIF: "Zelenski has, along with many other Ukrainians and in “peace talks” with the Russians, defined the plan: Russia out of Ukraine and Crimea.
That is the plan for victory over the invading Russians."

I'm sorry, FRiend, I know you mean well, but that is an aspiration or goal, it's not a plan.
So I'm no military expert, but do know that a real plan consists of at least three major elements --

1. Strategy and Grand Strategy -- the overall plan for employment of forces.
   In WWII, for example, one strategy was 60% of our forces to Europe, 40% to the Pacific.
   By 1941, before Pearl Harbor, the Brits were roughly 75% Europe or Africa, 25% Asia.

2. Operations -- planning for a major battle, for example, the retaking of Crimea in Ukraine.

3. Tactics -- doctrine and use of specific weapons & training, such as FPV drones or anti-air missiles.

So, I don't think either the public, or even Republican House Speaker Johnson, needs to see the whole plan, but somebody, typically the President himself, needs to stand up and say, in effect, "this is my plan for victory, and I will take responsibility for making it happen."

Until that happens, nothing good can result in Ukraine, except for our Democrats' #1 existential goal, which is to blame Republicans for Ukraine's defeat, thus evening-up the score for their own debacle in Afghanistan and contributing to the overall narrative of "America in decline".

PIF: "ONLY US politicians are stupid and weak and cannot do more that aid the Russians by withholding military assistance, while hiding behind the scam of a “border bill” which is totally unnecessary to closing the border."

I think Speaker Johnson is being a good soldier in holding out for Democrats' action on our border in exchange for his agreeing to a vote on Ukraine aid, which is certain to pass when he allows it.

One result of US delays is, they force our European friends to step-up and fill-in the gaps in US aid to Ukraine.
This is not a bad thing.
Plus, I love seeing French Pres. Macron trash-talking Putin!

PIF: "Expect DJT to give the Ukrainians all the military assistance they need, as quick as it can be delivered, thus ending the Russian invasion and threat to Europe, bringing peace.
There is no negotiated end to the invasion of Ukraine, DJT knows this."

I certainly hope you're right that "DJT knows this", but so far have seen nothing to confirm your very optimistic forecast.
On the campaign trail, Trump is still talking about negotiating an end to the war "in 24 hours", and I doubt if that is realistic.

[BroJoeK]

JonPreston referring to the photo at right: "Neocons all
Aren't you ashamed of yourself?"

deport: "Yep the world if full of them along with a vast array of others with differing descriptions..."

Sadly, our FRiend JonPreston -- "Russkiy Mirovich" -- is not native born American and doesn't really understand American history or even the American-English language.

What he clearly does understand is that the term "neo-con" can be weaponized against anyone who supports the United States or our friends overseas.
As such the mere accusation of "neo-con" (similar to "globalist") can be used to further reduce the US military deterrence and political influences, thus contributing to the "America in Decline" narrative and enabling the New Axis of Evil Dictators to achieve their long-held fantasies of imperial conquest and revanchist aggrandizement.

Which is Russkiy Mirovich's purpose here.
In reality, by definition none of his particular group were "neo-cons", since none were:

1. Former Democrats
2. Left the Democrat party because of the Democrats' pro-Russian pacifist, counter-culture "Make Love Not War" radicals.
3. Former Socialists or Social Democrats
4. Outside the mainstream of previous traditional or moderate conservative Republicans like Eisenhower, Goldwater, Nixon, Wilkie, Ford, Reagan, GHW Bush or Newt Gingrich.

But naturally, if you are a Russkiy Mirovich like our FRiends JonPreston and deport, then you loathe and despise anyone who loves America, our people and our history, especially conservative Republicans.
If you are like them, then every such American embodies what you hate and wish to see destroyed about the USA, the sooner the better.

And what you would wish to see instead is the rise to dominance in the world of people like these guys:

"Treason doth never prosper?
What's the reason? for if it prosper,
none dare call it treason.[7]"
Sir John Harington circa 1600

[Chad C. Mulligan]

I get a chuckle out of the Putin prevaricators calling me a Neocon, because it’s a badge of honor to me. I’ve tried to get them to explain what they mean, and their answers are laughable.

[PIF]

I was not talking about the details as you enumerate - just that there is one. No one is going to announce the details of a plan such as that to the enemy or to the public at large. There is a plan - you fill in the blanks that you see fit.

[JonPreston]

Help us out here??

Zelensky asks for continued American leadership.

This is a euphemism for funding him and the oligarchs.

When the war is over his name will be in the dirt, next to the name “Hitler”. Ukrainians will say “never again” and “we have been misled”.

pic.twitter.com/a29BdYXZHc— Make Peace Now; alternative news (@AlternatNews) March 10, 2024

[BroJoeK]

AndyJackson: "You deny ignoring the border and then you scream Ruzzia Ruzzia Ruzzia and focus on what we need to do for Ukraine while painting Putin as both uterly incompetent and Russians are no real threat and they are losing this, but those big bad evil Russians are taking over the world and we need to stop them."

I'm seeing a lot of nonsense and misrepresentations in your words here, so will do what I can to help unconfuse you:

1. "You deny ignoring the border...":
   On the US borders -- Republican House Speaker Johnson put aid to Ukraine on hold pending Senate approval of border tightening measures.
   It was a good move, but so far has not worked because, come to find out, Democrats don't really care as much about Ukraine as they do about keeping our borders open.
   Democrats also care about blaming Republicans for Ukraine's loss, so Democrats have no serious reasons, so far, to deal with Speaker Johnson.

   

2. "and then you scream Ruzzia Ruzzia Ruzzia and focus on what we need to do for Ukraine...":
   Of course we try to stay reasonably calm, but it's not just Vlad the Invader's "Ruzzia Ruzzia Ruzzia" that threatens the world, it's the whole new Axis of Evil Dictators, including Xi-snake's CCP China, Little Kim's NoKo and the Moola Mullah's Iran -- plus, that's not even listing JVers like Venezuela's Chavez-Madura and Cuba's Castro-Díaz-Canel.

3. "while painting Putin as both uterly incompetent and Russians are no real threat and they are losing this, but those big bad evil Russians are taking over the world and we need to stop them."
   Nobody has ever said Russians are inherently stupid -- Russians do learn, sometimes slowly, but the longer the Ukraine war lasts, the more likely Russians are to figure out exactly what they are doing wrong militarily, and correct that.
   Occasionally, even now, we do see signs of Russians having learned from their past mistakes and so behaving more effectively militarily, but not yet consistently.

4. As for "taking over the world", Russkiy Mir is all about spreading Russian culture by conquest, as far as it can go, until Russkiy Mir meets some irresistible opposition.
   The question then has to be, "where do we draw the line", and I argue that it should be right at Russia's borders, tolerating no Russian military adventures -- for the number one reason that every Russian successful aggression will only increase the Bear's appetite for its next conquest.

   It's the police Broken Windows Theory applied to international relations.

5. "And you have a cartoon to prove it.
   Get your own story straight and maybe some of us will take you a bit more seriously."
   My "story" has never changed, but your ability to confuse yourself with crazy Russian narratives seems remarkable.

If you ever escape enthrallment to Russian propaganda, let me know.

[BroJoeK]

JonPreston: Digest and explain with many words and pictures."

“Have the courage of a white flag and negotiate.
Don’t be ashamed, negotiate.
How many more deaths if you continue?”
— Pope says Zelensky should negotiate"

Not so many years ago, one way to express certainty was with the rhetorical question "is the Pope Catholic?".
Sadly, these days that question seems less rhetorical than ever.

We might remember that the three people most credited with destroying the Old Soviet Union -- without firing a shot -- included one of Francis' predecessors, now sainted for his good work:

Sadly, those days seem to be gone, perhaps forever?

[BroJoeK]

PIF: "I was not talking about the details as you enumerate - just that there is one.
No one is going to announce the details of a plan such as that to the enemy or to the public at large.
There is a plan - you fill in the blanks that you see fit."

In the Second World War everyone knew that Europe was our first priority, that there would an amphibious landing in France at some point and that our goal, as expressed by Pres. Roosevelt and PM Churchill together in January 1942 (Casablanca), was the Axis powers' "Unconditional Surrender".

That's leadership.

That's a goal.

That's strategy.

It's even a bit of operational planning known by the public, though of course details on D-Day were a closely guarded secret, surrounded, as Churchill said, "by a bodyguard of lies".

[JonPreston]

three people most credited with destroying the Old Soviet Union

Congratulations, there aren't many Neocons who acknowledge that the old Soviet Union was destroyed and along with it the Cold War. Welcome to the 21st Century!

[BroJoeK]

JonPreston: "Help us out here??
Zelensky asks for continued American leadership.
This is a euphemism for funding him and the oligarchs."

Sure, in the JonPreston Marxist-world, where every country is a kleptocracy of, by and for, its oligarchs, then the whole issue becomes simply Biden's oligarchs supporting Zelenskyy's oligarchs in opposition to Putin's oligarchs as backed-up by Xi's and the Mullahs' oligarchs, with maybe some help to Ukraine also from Macron's, Schultz's and Sunak's oligarchs, etc., etc.

But your problem with pitting one group of oligarchs against another is that, in the overall equation, they cancel each other out, and we are left with the basic figures of:

1. Aggressor vs. Defenders
2. Invader vs. Protectors
3. Murderer vs. Guardians
4. Evil vs. Good
5. Wrong vs. Right
6. Criminal vs. Law enforcers
7. Insane vs. Sane
8. Lunatic vs. Resistance
9. Lies vs. Facts
10. Agit-Prop vs. Truth
11. Threats vs. Deterrence
12. Dictator vs. Democratic Republican Allies
13. Axis of Evil vs. NATO's Allies
14. Empire Builder vs. Free Republican Allies
15. Etc., etc.

JonPreston: "When the war is over his name will be in the dirt, next to the name “Hitler”.
Ukrainians will say “never again” and “we have been misled”."

That is speaking of Vlad the Invader, of course, and his versions of "Russkiy Mir" -- so beloved by a few Russians while hated by literally everyone else on earth.

[JonPreston]

Please, read KanekoaTheGreat, and give us words and pictures

9) Robert Kagan, Victoria Nuland's husband, is a prominent neoconservative who co-founded the Project for the New American Century in 1998, which advocated for the U.S. invasion of Iraq, relying on the false claim that the country had weapons of mass destruction.

In 1998, he… pic.twitter.com/CZnYUeVf9H— KanekoaTheGreat (@KanekoaTheGreat) March 5, 2024

[BroJoeK]

Russkiy Mirovich: "Congratulations, there aren't many Neocons who acknowledge that the old Soviet Union was destroyed and along with it the Cold War.
Welcome to the 21st Century!"

As always, you're just fantasizing.
Sure, the Old USSR was declared dead and buried.
However, not just its disembodied spirit, some of its physical corpse has risen from the grave in the form, first & foremost, of Old Soviet KGB LtCol. Vladimir Vladimirovich Invader.

Your very own Russkiy Mir is just the Old Soviet spirit in all but name:

[JonPreston]

That Pole you promote is a brother-in-law to Radosław Sikorski, who is married to Anne Applebaum of the Atlantic. She has promoted the Ukraine Project, which is the greatest foreign policy disaster for the Whitehouse since Vietnam. And remember, this wouldn’t be possible without the cheerleading of you Neocons. Well done!

[BroJoeK]

Russkiy Mirovich: "...advocated for the U.S. invasion of Iraq, relying on the false claim that the country had weapons of mass destruction."

Turns out that Saddam Hussein himself believed he actually had weapons of mass destruction and could use them, indeed, had used them before.

Where exactly Saddam's WMDs went is unknown, nor is it known who, if anyone, in the Bush administration realized Saddam's WMD weapons storage bunkers were actually empty.

This was the real problem in Iraq:

Today Iraq is still struggling, but does have a legitimately elected government and a more stable political-social-economic environment than, say, 20 years ago.

Iraq's oil production today is roughly double what it was in, for example, the year 2000.

[Justa]

Iraq is no longer a haven for a KGB-trained despot who delighted in invading his neighbors. This is the real reason the KGB-Putin Posters are hung up over Iraq.

[BroJoeK]

Russkiy Mirovich: "That Pole you promote is a brother-in-law to Radosław Sikorski, who is married to Anne Applebaum of the Atlantic."

Do you mean Karol Józef Wojtyła?
Naw, I don't think so, must be a case of mistaken identity.

This is the Pole I'm trying to promote, the one who helped destroy the Old Soviet Union.
He was great, a saint in fact.

I wish I could say the same about the current occupant of that office... 😢

One interesting point about your friend, Poland's Foreign Affairs Minister Radosław Sikorski, is that he belongs to the opposition party, now in power in Poland, from former Polish PM Mateusz Morawiecki -- it's not clear to me what that means regarding Poland's support for Ukraine.

Russkiy Mirovich: "She has promoted the Ukraine Project, which is the greatest foreign policy disaster for the Whitehouse since Vietnam."

You mean, disaster for the Kremlin, of course, since Russians have suffered more casualties than anyone from Vlad the Invader's insane work to Russkiy Mirize Ukraine.

Our Democrats' "greatest foreign policy disaster" since Vietnam was Afghanistan in 2021.
The fate of Ukraine is not yet known, and as of today can easily be described as a great success of heroic people against Vlad the Invader's overwhelming forces.

[MeganC]

This morning the Russian Free Brigade is attacking Belgorod. Hopefully they do to Belgorod what Ruzzia has done to so many Ukrainian cities.

[JonPreston]

Please digest and explain in full. WITH PICTURES!

🇺🇦🇬🇧🇷🇺
The British demonstrate how combat-ready their tanks are for operation in Ukraine...

(The real fun starts about one minute into the vid.) pic.twitter.com/STeg7sv0Xr— David Roth-Lindberg (@RothLindberg) March 12, 2024

[BroJoeK]

Justa: "Iraq is no longer a haven for a KGB-trained despot who delighted in invading his neighbors.
This is the real reason the KGB-Putin Posters are hung up over Iraq."

In 1991, curiously enough, after the Soviet debacle in Afghanistan, Russians under Michael Gorbachev supported Bush the Elder's western coalition in Gulf War I.
But by 2003 Vladimir Putin opposed Bush the Younger's Gulf War II, and our pro-Russian repeaters here have happily adopted the same stance.

The Old Soviets' relations with Saddam Hussein were... "complicated" and on-again, off-again, largely due to the Soviets' incompatible desires to also maintain good relations with Iran.
During an "on-again" period, the early 1970s, Iraq received aid & training from the Soviet KGB and East Germany's Stasi.

The Iraq-Iran war led Saddam to seek allies among western powers, notably France and the USA.
This cooled relations with Russia enough that by the 1991 Gulf War I, Michael Gorbachev sided against Iraq.
But by 2003, Vlad the Invader had restored Russia's relations with Iraq enough to oppose Gulf War II, at least verbally.

Today, 20+ years after Gulf War II, Iraq remains a poster child of our pro-Russian neo-isolationists, for what and who was wrong about "neo-conservatism".
Even on Free Republic, whose posters strongly supported the War on Terror, including in Iraq, some now claim to have opposed "neo-cons" from the beginning.

One person who's never publicly mocked neo-conservatism or "neo-cons" as such is Donald Trump.
Yes, Trump calls the Iraq war a "big fat mistake", and derides some (i.e., John Bolton) as "war mongers".
Plus, Trump opposes "nation-building".
Most important, says Trump, we should have taken some of Iraq's oil to help pay for the war.

So, what is Iraq's situation today?

1. Iraq's GDP per capita has tripled since 2000.
   Today Iraq's GDP/capita is roughly equal to Ukraine's, about half of Russia's.

2. Iraq's oil production is double what it was in 2000.

3. Iraq's Democracy Index scores very high for a Middle Eastern country in: electoral processes, pluralism and in political participation.
   Like other Mideast countries, Iraq scores poorly for civil liberties; and like other war-torn countries, zero for functioning government.

4. Iraq's Corruption Index has slowly improved from one of the world's worst in 2003 to now not quite so bad.

5. Iraq's overall crime rate is roughly the same as ours.

Bottom line is the Donald Trump model of: we won't do nation-building because it costs too much in blood & treasure, takes too long and produces pathetic results, certainly in Afghanistan.
In Afghanistan, one of the world's poorest countries, GDP per capita also tripled between 2000 and 2020, but has since lost about 1/2 of what it previously gained.

By comparison, ongoing US support helps Iraqis to have done relatively well.