Posted on 02/29/2024 1:05:04 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27
Joy Behar told her co-hosts Thursday on ABC’s “The View” that “democracy died” with the Supreme Court’s 2000 Bush v. Gore decision that settled a recount dispute in Florida’s 2000 presidential election between George W. Bush and Al Gore.
Discussing the Supreme Court announcement that they have agreed to hear oral arguments on former President Donald Trump’s presidential immunity claims, co-host Whoopi Goldberg said, “Let’s look at a scenario where the Supreme Court says yes, he has all those rights. He is immune from everything. You know what Joe Biden could do since he is presently president? He could throw every Republican in jail. I mean, he could.”
She added, “What this means is he can do anything. He could dismiss everybody’s debt, you know, there’s a whole bunch of great stuff that could happen. But lets look at what this really means.”
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
Idiot. First, the U.S. has never been a Democracy, it has been, is, and should always be a Republic. Second, that case was about determining which ballots cast in FL for POTUS electors were valid votes under law - nothing else.
I am convinced that the Dems have been cheating in elections on ALL levels at least since the Depression, and likely going back to at least the Civil War…and they are STILL butt-hurt about being caught and having their plans thwarted in 2000 (and 2016).
I’m sure there was a lot of clapping and cheering from the audience - and some people actually watch this stuff and think it is brilliant.
The networks declared for an hour the polls were all closed in Florida while they remained open in the panhandle, a very Republican part of the state. Some of them even called the state for Gore - while polls were *still open*. This was estimated to have cost Bush a net loss of 10,000 votes from people listening to these reports and believing the polls were closed in that area. Even if it were just a fraction of that amount, and Bush’s lead was in the thousands vs. hundreds, none of that fiasco could have occurred. Look at how close they came to pulling it off.
Btw I don’t know if you noticed—but the networks did it again in the Michigan primary on Tuesday.
Part of the Michigan Upper Peninsula was in a different (later) time zone—but the race was called by the networks (both parties) while many UP polling places were still open.
They have not learned anything.
Last time I checked, the 2000 SCOTUS decision on Bush v. Gore stopped the "election deniers" from being able to have recounts in FL endlessly because they didn't like the results repeatedly showing that Bush won.
So are you for or against "election deniers" getting their way?
Please make up your mind, Joy!
Dumb, dumber and the dumbest - that’s how I view The View.
There was a lawsuit filed by disenfranchised voters and they agreed in the settlement resolution to agree never to do that again - not declare polls are closed when they are open, not to call states while polls are open.
So they did it again with Michigan? So they are violating the agreement...
😂😂😂😂😂👍
In the age of the Internet I don’t even know who to blame.
AP called the race right after 8 PM—and then all the networks and other news sources picked up the AP feed and chimed in with their more detailed projections.
I commented on it in real time—I vaguely remembered they were not supposed to do it.
Here is the thread—you can follow the timeline:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4220286/posts
I note the time zone issue in post 23 at 2PM.
In post 49 at 8:23 PM I posted:
“The media is not supposed to release numbers until 9 PM Eastern because polls are still open in parts of the Upper Peninsula.
Who were the bad boys who released numbers early?”
Then see the early projection posts at 8:24 PM—posts 53 and 54 where I commented “they are shameless”.
;-)
The solution to Presidential criminal acts is outlined in the Constitution: impeachment. The founders recognized the risk a President can face from politically inspired prosections; without this Constitutionaly guaranteed immunity, a President could never fulfill his/her responsibilities, as his/her entire life would be spent in - or preparing for - court. Just as President Trump is now doing.
Well then, at least we can agree that Jan 6 was not that big a deal, right?
The big deal on Jan. 6 was a FBI COINTELPRO successor operation that was planned and executed to make Trump supporters targets.
It was a Deep State operation by definition because obviously the President did not authorize it—the insurrection was a Deep State insurrection.
Bush v. Gore was a terrible decision oin a case the Court never should have heard.
The Constitution’s authors anticipated events like Florida 2000 and they provided for it.
The Florida legislature was in session during the entire episode and in the (probable) event that SCOFLA demanded the appointment of Gore electors, the Legislature (to which the appointment power belongs) was prepared to send Bush electors to Washington.
It was irrelevant if there were two Florida elector slates, one, or none.
The process would have gone to Congress, where it belonged. Republicans had a majority in the Special Joint Session to count the votes. If that session failed to declare Bush the winner, the House wo;uld then have elected the President with 30 (R) delegations and 20 (D) delegations, either way, it was impossible for Gore to become President by any legal, Constitutional process.
The Senate was divided 50-50 and until January 20 at noon, President of the Senate Gore was in the chair. There was therefore a small possibility that if the Special Joint Session failed to elect a Vice President, that the Senate would have elected Joe Lieberman 51-50.
Reflecting on the role of Liz Cheney’s father in the Iraq disaster, that might not have been such a bad thing.
The courts have no proper role in the sovereign actions of the people, or the States, in appointing a new President and Vice President.
How the ballots were counted or not counted was irrelevant. The Constitution vests the power to appoint Electors in the Florida Legislature.
There is nothing in the Constitution about “running for President” or “voting for President”.
If Gore had won Florida by 50,000 votes, I’m sure the GOP Legislature would have agreed to send Gore’s Electors to DC. But under the conditions that existed in Florida on the day after Election Day and afterwards, there was no way that heavily Republican Legislature was not going to send the Bush Electors up the line.
The Supreme Court invented an extra-Constitutional process, stuck its nose in where it had no business, and increased its own power at the same time.
Not really. It didn’t rule on any of that - it ruled on the counting process and whether it was legal / constitutional for the election that was held - on that the ballots were indeed relevant. It did not rule on the appointment of Electors, where the power for this was, etc. Even during the oral arguments it was said (and agreed by the Florida attorney) to a question posed by Justice O’Connor that the legislature would have the power to appoint the Electors directly under the Constitution regardless of this outcome of the count, to which he had to say “Yes...we would agree with that.”
Does Joyless know that the Goron couldn’t even carry his home state of Tennessee? Probably not.
If he had, Florida wouldn’t have mattered.
I know, I was just making fun of the media constantly harping on how Jan 6 was a “threat to Democracy”, only to find out democracy had been dead for 20 years
https://youtu.be/x_O0H7dFrjg?si=FpYCp4F5yGOj4TE6&t=2581
Takes to you part of the arguments in question I noted above.
He did win his home state.He carried DC by about 95-5.
I took my family to the palm beach supervisor of elections for the hanging chad protest.
Bad as things are under dementia joe, had gore won things now would be far worse.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.