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Arizona GOP advances bill legalizing killing undocumented migrants on suspicion of trespassing
Axios ^ | 2.27.2024 | April Rubin

Posted on 02/27/2024 9:07:23 PM PST by libh8er

Arizona Republicans are advancing a bill that would allow people to legally kill someone accused of attempting to trespass or actively trespassing on their property.

The big picture: The legislation, which is expected to be vetoed if it reaches the state's Democratic governor, would legalize the murder of undocumented immigrants, who often have to cross ranches that sit on the state's border with Mexico.

State Rep. Justin Heap (R.) said the bill is intended to close a loophole by which migrants have moved within the U.S., per the Arizona Mirror. Context: George Alan Kelly, an Arizona rancher, was accused of killing a migrant, Gabriel Cuen Buitimea, walking through his 170-acre property last year, per the Arizona Republic.

His trial is set for March 21, per the AP. What's inside: "Premises" is defined in the bill to mean any property or structure, "occupied or not."

Arizona law already allows the use of deadly force against home intruders if deemed necessary for protection. The bill expands the existing doctrine from a home intrusion to a home or property intrusion.

(Excerpt) Read more at axios.com ...


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KEYWORDS: arizona; azgop; illegals
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1 posted on 02/27/2024 9:07:23 PM PST by libh8er
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To: libh8er

This is a step in the right direction...


2 posted on 02/27/2024 9:09:10 PM PST by Captainpaintball (America needs a Conservative DICTATOR if it hopes to survive. )
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To: libh8er

Rational Invasion Defense


3 posted on 02/27/2024 9:11:40 PM PST by tomkat
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To: libh8er

Sounds good to me.

Moving targets are more challenging.


4 posted on 02/27/2024 9:13:50 PM PST by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: libh8er

A Kurt Schlichter solution.

https://www.amazon.com/Attack-Kurt-Schlichter-ebook/dp/B0CR1N7R8T?ref_=ast_author_mpb


5 posted on 02/27/2024 9:16:26 PM PST by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: libh8er

Rightly so...I like it!


6 posted on 02/27/2024 9:16:46 PM PST by mythenjoseph (Islam has NO place in a Christian society.)
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To: libh8er

The ultimate “Get Off My Lawn.”


7 posted on 02/27/2024 9:32:12 PM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: libh8er

I’ll grant that we don’t want them here. If a person is
traversing the South 40, and the property isn’t well
defined, then I’m not in favor of killing someone over
it.

If there is activity near the physical structures on the
property and you feel endangered, then open season > IMO.

If there is a lot of narcotic or cartel activity, I’d
also loosen those parameters.

I’m not into killing some poor Mexican just because he
was stupid enough to be on your property, in a non-
threatening manner.


8 posted on 02/27/2024 9:35:19 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: libh8er
From FindLaw on Trespass...
In general, property owners cannot use deadly force to protect property. But property owners may be able to shoot at trespassers in self-defense if they fear great bodily harm or death.

The law gives property owners the right to defend themselves with a reasonable response. That means any force used against a trespasser must usually be proportionate to harm that is reasonably perceived.

The legality of shooting a trespasser will further depend on whether you have a duty to retreat or a right to stand your ground, and the extent of your curtilage (your property surrounding your home) that counts as your dwelling.

In 2021, a total of 27 states have adopted stand-your-ground laws. Eleven states restricted the right of armed response to their homes -- the "Castle Doctrine" -- and saying that people have a duty to retreat from threats or danger in public places.

So that suggests that 16 states permit you to shoot trespassers on your property outside your home. Continues...
For example, Florida lets you open fire on someone forcibly trying to enter your dwelling -- including your attached porch -- but not the rest of your property (such as a yard).

Also, since most state laws require that a trespasser knowingly or intentionally enter someone's private property, it's important for property owners to have a "No Trespassers" sign in place to serve as notice.

But remember: Shooting at a trespasser is always a legal gamble. The legality of such actions is incredibly state-specific and fact-specific. Property owners could potentially be held liable -- civilly and/or criminally -- if their efforts cross the line.

It sounds like Arizona is codifying exactly what and where you can shoot trespassers found on your property. To be on the safe side, you should probably post "No Trespassing" signs in ten different languages.
9 posted on 02/27/2024 9:42:23 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: libh8er

Good. This is war. An invasion.


10 posted on 02/27/2024 10:32:34 PM PST by grimalkin (Communism is the final logic of the dehumanization of man. -Fulton J. Sheen)
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To: DoughtyOne

You presume that it will be a Mexican but 125 different countries are sending their people here.
It is said the Chinese are supplying weapons to disaffected Americans


11 posted on 02/27/2024 10:37:51 PM PST by South Dakota (Patriotism is the new terrorism .)
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To: libh8er

ALRIGHT!!


12 posted on 02/27/2024 10:38:35 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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To: libh8er

When I was a kid, every kid knew that a property owner might shoot you . . . so KEEP OUT!

I knew 1 kid who broke that warning. He was trouble. He would hide in the nearby woods and wait for a pet to appear in a neighbor’s yard . . . and then shoot the pet with an arrow.

I caught that kid, doing that, one day, and I chased him all the way to his house.

Their kitchen door was open, and he dashed inside, with me just behind him.

His mother was at the stove. She turned, and I told her what just happened.

The kid denied, denied, denied.


13 posted on 02/27/2024 10:38:54 PM PST by linMcHlp
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To: doorgunner69
By your screen name I more than assume you know what you're talking about.

I never served but I'm not unfamiliar with shooting. As per a moving target you have to lead it, correct?

14 posted on 02/27/2024 10:40:58 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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To: South Dakota

That’s not exactly true, as far as presumptions go.

Larger groups do contain people from various nations. I do
think the straggler type still exists from time to time.

If there’s a group on your property, it’s a different type
of situation.

Not sure it would be wise to mix it up with coyotes et al,
unless you have others with you.


15 posted on 02/27/2024 11:05:45 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: DoughtyOne
You and I go back 20 years and our favored party have done little but "reach across the aisle" without the courtesy of a reach-around, as Gunny used to say (RIP).

Wise other-passed FR guy Jackelope Breeder, who lived in the zone, told me he made his night forays discouraging the illegals with horrendous stuff (skunk extract, etc.) while never killing or causing severe injuries. His heart eventually gave out but I honor him and relay his message:

The moment we're cast as the villains merely trying to defend our nation when official forces are told not to equals getting handed a ticking count down of our time left free before they get us out of the way one way or another.

16 posted on 02/28/2024 12:28:15 AM PST by MikelTackNailer (Compare Trump never going back on his word to someone's 'word as a Biden'.)
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To: libh8er

I thought my neighbor was an illegal. Sorry about that.


17 posted on 02/28/2024 1:00:09 AM PST by Revel
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To: jmacusa

> As per a moving target you have to lead it, correct?<

Not from a helicopter. If it’s faster than you, yes. If it’s the same speed, no. If it’s slower, you have to aim behind it.

EC


18 posted on 02/28/2024 2:16:35 AM PST by Ex-Con777
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To: Captainpaintball

This alone will resolve the migrant issue in a heartbeat.


19 posted on 02/28/2024 2:52:48 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: libh8er

Castle Doctrine with a build in “Visiting the Triple S Ranch” (Shoot, Shovel and Shut up). Or in Yellowstone parlance, a trip to the Train Station.


20 posted on 02/28/2024 3:07:14 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Trump/Jennifer-Ruth Green in 24)
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