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While Trump Invokes The 8th Amendment, Letitia James Dreams Of Selling Off His Property
Clash Daily ^ | February 21, 2024 | Staff

Posted on 02/21/2024 5:45:31 PM PST by Red Badger

Rabid hatred hellbent on the personal destruction of a defendant is normal for a DA... no?

As Trump is quick to remind us, Letitia James promised voters that she would be all about grievance politics and the personal destruction of POTUS 45. It was so blatant that Dershowitz wrote a book about it called, ‘Get Trump’.

In the eagerness to destroy him, James cut corners. In the event that those corners violated his rights as an American citizen, he will have every right to sue the government — and the agents of the state responsible — for personal damages.

It was an obscene ruling against him with a novel case in which Trump’s guilt was presumed even before he entered the courtroom, made even more outrageous by the lack of any injured party and the aggressive penalties that must be met even before he can exercise his lawful right of appeal.

Now that the ruling has been handed down, she is eager to see Trump suffer. She doesn’t just want to strip him of a shocking percentage of his personal wealth, she wants to strip him of his property. Literally, she’s eager to seize his buildings. Not ‘prepared to’ seize them. Eager.

She told ABC news that if Trump can’t find the cash to pay the fine, she’ll seize his assets. She seems really happy about that prospect.

“If he does not have funds to pay off the judgment, then we will seek judgment enforcement mechanisms in court, and we will ask the judge to seize his assets,” James said in an interview with ABC News’ Aaron Katersky.

Trump was fined $354.8 million plus approximately $100 million in pre-judgment interest on Friday after Judge Arthur Engoron determined that he inflated his net worth in order get more favorable loan terms. […] Saying that she was “very confident” with the strength of her case on appeal, James reiterated that her office would not hesitate to seize Trump’s assets — mentioning Trump’s 40 Wall Street skyscraper by name — if the former president is unable to find the cash to cover the court-ordered disgorgement.

“We are prepared to make sure that the judgment is paid to New Yorkers, and yes, I look at 40 Wall Street each and every day,” James said of the standard court process for collecting judgments in civil cases. — ABC

Oh, how nice. She even has a favorite building picked out as the punishment she wants to inflict on him.

If you want some sense of how dizzying the numbers in this judgement are, the Louisiana purchase converted into 2022 dollars (taking Wikipedia with the usual grain of salt) is estimated to be about #358 Million.

On April 11, 1803, just days before Monroe’s arrival, Barbé-Marbois offered Livingston all of Louisiana for $15 million,[16] which averages to less than three cents per acre (7¢/ha).[17][18] The total of $15 million is equivalent to about $358 million in 2022 dollars, or 67 cents per acre. —Wiki

If that number is to anywhere close to accurate, after interest, the Louisiana Purchase would be LESS than the amount Trump was ordered to pay for a victimless crime.

That brings us to the 8th Amendment, which Trump brought up in his town hall with Laura Ingraham.

A lawyer friend of Mark Levin’s wrote a piece that was so good he read the whole thing on air. Here are some of the key details:

Professor Jonathan Turley called the $370 million judgment confiscatory, extreme and abusive. Professor Steven Calabresi termed it a travesty and an unjust political act. The subhead for his online commentary employed the term “Stalinist.” Both law professors are right.

Because the judgment does not relate to any loss, the $370 million is not, properly understood, violative of the prohibition against grossly excessive punitive damages. It does fall, however, directly within the excessive fines clause of the Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution.

In an opinion especially illuminating to understand the wrongdoing by the attorney general and Judge Engoron, the U.S. Supreme Court held in Timbs v. Indiana (2019), that the excessive fines clause is an incorporated protection applicable to the states (all of them, even New York) under the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

The Supreme Court stated that the clause “traces it venerable lineage back to at least 1215” and the Magna Carta. “Despite Magna Carta, imposition of excessive fines persisted. The 17th century Stuart kings, in particular, were criticized for using large fines to raise revenue, harass their political foes, and indefinitely detain those unable to pay.” These remain concerns.

As the Supreme Court stated in Timbs: “For good reason, the protection against excessive fines has been a constant shield throughout Anglo-American history: Exorbitant tolls undermine other constitutional liberties. Excessive fines can be used, for example, to retaliate or chill the speech of political enemies, as the Stuarts’ critics learned several centuries ago.”

And excessive fines are a cheap source of revenue, in the case of Trump being a lot of revenue, especially for a state that has been bleeding population and high-income taxpayers. —FoxNews

In pressing an 8th Amendment challenge, the political biases of both Judge Engoron and Letitia James will go under the microscope.

If successful, Engoron and James will have the tables turned on them. The predators who weaponized the government against a citizen will find themselves in legal jeapordy, possibly selling their own property to cover Trump’s damages.

Imagine how quickly the smug looks on their faces would melt away if the 8th is brought up against them.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 8a; 8thamendment; eighthamendment; harassment; letitiajames; newyork; newyorkcity; persecution; trump; trumppersecution
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To: Red Badger

21 posted on 02/21/2024 7:06:11 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: kiryandil

Black biker gangs. There are those who are Trump supporters who despise these kind of Marxists. That would be ironic and fitting. But better would be the 8th Amendment applied directly to these new Tories abusing an American Patriot. These are Tories whom the Founders wrote the 8th Amendment and yes the 2nd Amendment to be directed. These are the “eaters out of the substance” Thomas Jefferson wrote about in the Declaration of Independence. A new name for them— New Tories— the Marxist Left of the Statist regime of a State— New York.


22 posted on 02/21/2024 7:11:20 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Red Badger
This may turn out better for Trump in the end.

Instead of spending money to campaign, money he wouldn't get back even if he became prez again, Trump is spending money to defend himself and his constitutional rights, money he might get back on appeal and countersuit. All while it increases his popularity more than spending on campaigning.

23 posted on 02/21/2024 7:22:58 PM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

NYC will spend that money fast as in a New York Minute!.............


24 posted on 02/21/2024 7:25:20 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Brian Griffin
a real estate man who thought his property was worth more than it was

That is an opinion, not a fact.

25 posted on 02/21/2024 7:30:31 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: Red Badger

Ms. James is unwittingly setting herself up for a big fall.

The judge is going down with her.


26 posted on 02/21/2024 9:13:19 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: Brian Griffin

Too bad that this would be a Bill of Attainder.

That, and no Demonrat would vote for it, along with all of the RINO scumbags.


27 posted on 02/21/2024 9:21:44 PM PST by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: Red Badger
NYC will spend that money fast as in a New York Minute!.............

It seems to me if NY seized properties it is not like changing the locks on the doors. It would be a total **** show. They would be seizing cash flows. Who is going to pay for building maintenance, employees, trash pickup and etc? I am sure there are outstanding loans on the properties as well.

28 posted on 02/21/2024 11:16:01 PM PST by EVO X ( )
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To: Red Badger

TWo ugly, old Black Broads.

They should take the time to THINK ABOUT WHO THEY ARE.

TO GO THROUGH LIFE THIS ...HATEFUL...IS TO HAVE NO ENJOYMENT OF LIFE.

SO SAD.


29 posted on 02/21/2024 11:31:09 PM PST by Maris Crane
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To: Maris Crane

God alone is the one to whom ultimate judgement will come.
I cannot even pray for Go’s mercy on their souls for they have shown to have none.
“Judge not, lest you be judged.” Ms James and Judge Engeron’s time on this earth will come to an end, but an eternity in hell will be a fit punishment for their crimes!


30 posted on 02/22/2024 1:11:47 AM PST by princess leah
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To: Red Badger

She needs to be brought to her knees. Im sure she has a trail of improprieties. Like Fani Im hoping they are looking into this


31 posted on 02/22/2024 2:04:08 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: Brian Griffin
Real estate is overpriced only to the people who can't afford it.

The reason people think real estate is overpriced is because of people with wealth bidding it up.

The true value of something is whatever someone else is willing to pay for it. In the case of real estate, location is everything. The wealthy buy up the beachfront properties, the properties near lush rivers and lakes, islands, etc., because they can.

Envy of another's wealth expressed in the form of "overpriced real estate" is not a reason to take someone to court and strip them of their wealth.

In my opinion, of course...

-PJ

32 posted on 02/22/2024 2:11:43 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Red Badger

I’m looking forward to the day President Trump is reelected.


33 posted on 02/22/2024 5:52:48 AM PST by Tommy Revolts
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To: Brian Griffin
The fact is that in my opinion much of US real estate is overpriced, and by factors many times greater than claimed by Trump. Much of what is considered ‘unaffordable’ real estate is overpriced in my opinion.

In a free market society, properties are worth whatever someone is willing to pay for them. It doesn't matter what your, or the judge's opinion is. $18 million for Mara-a-Lago is a joke.

34 posted on 02/22/2024 7:20:54 AM PST by Go Gordon
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To: Red Badger

WHAT IF SHE TRIES & NO ONE WILL BID ON ANYTHING???

OTHER REAL ESTATE DEVELOPERS NIGHT RISE UP IN TRUMP’S FAVOR


35 posted on 02/22/2024 9:48:04 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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