Posted on 02/18/2024 1:52:59 PM PST by JonPreston
You take the Russian side.
No, just if the Russians wanted to minimize the chances of a retaliation.
“You take the Russian side.”
Nope, I’m NEUTRAL - I neither support arming Russia, nor arming Ukraine. When I can for US military and/or financial aid to Russia, your above claim will be true (but don’t hold your breath for that day).
But, yes, I do let people know what Russian law requires, as a misunderstanding in that regard may lead to a very bad outcome.
You are allying yourself with Joe Biden, the communist Democrats and warmongering NeoCons. As far as your “illegally” accusation, show me your badge border cop.
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Are you feeling alright? What you are saying is crazy.
You seem to support the Russian Military Complex and the Russian neocon deep-state warmongering machine run by the Kremlin. But WHY? Are you living in Moscow?
- According to you, anyone willing to have borders respected is a pro Biden now so suddenly? So, why on earth do you support Russia’s border violations in Ukraine? Why?
- According to you, the fact that I oppose the NeoSoviet-Iran-Hamas alliance makes me pro Biden? So, why do you support that alliance then? You don’t care about the lives of our Israeli and Ukraninan allies we have signed Security agreements with?
- According to you, the fact that I denounce Russias violation of borders makes me pro-Biden? Thus I presume you want America’s southern border to be violated as well? Why do you hate borders?
Why aren’t you denouncing the Neocon deep-state in Russia which is pushing for never-ending wars and has dedicated 40% (!!) of its entire national budget for its MIC (Military Industrial Complex.) That alone is ULTRA-Neocon! Right?
I think you are disconnected from reality.
LASTLY:
There are many “establishments”...
Which one of the ones below do you support?
A - The one that wants our traditional allies to be beaten by our traditional enemies?
B - The one that wants to keep our Southern border wide open?
C - The one that wants to protect our Southern border while helping our traditional allies against our traditional enemies.
I’m a patriot, so evidently I have chosen to support the establishment that supports moral Christian values : point “C”.
And you?
Yawn.🙄
Please remind these people that Putin clearly stated he prefers Biden to Trump.
They are full of crap saying we are Biden supporters if we would stand up to Russia.
Russia wants Biden.
For Putin everything is an escalation. Even the countless Russian people mourning Navalny with some flowers, are now being arrested en mass, for subversion against the State.
Putin is afraid of flowers apparently. Flowers are an escalation!
Thus, we don’t care what he is afraid of. We just have to keep arming Ukraine till it wins against Russia. Total victory. Ukrainians have already retaken about 50% of what the Russian invaders had originally taken in Ukraine. So total victory is clearly feasible for Ukrainians. More gear, more equipment, more ammo. Europe has now started the process - doubling what America has given. And it’s only a start! All good.
Only communist parties in Europe seem to be unwilling to help Ukraine.
Why have a triad if you don’t use it?
Putin could never be an ally, any more than his allies the Ayatollas and the Norks could be.
Medvedev was Hillary’s buddy, anyway.
Promises, promises.
There is no Russian law that will be followed, unless Putin wants it.
Putin will not follow any “doctrine” that involves using nukes in Europe, because he knows there will be destruction of Russian forces in Europe..
Putin is simply playing mind games, declaring that parts of Ukraine are Russia, and so don’t you dare take them away.
Of course all this talk of “it’s really Russia” and “the nazis made us do it” is just evil tactics of the type all dictators use.
bttt
That territory is GONE. It is now part of Russia. And if you guys choose to not accept that, then it’s very likely that Odessa will also be liberated (although I think it will in any case, at this point).
The only things up for discussion is what remains of Ukraine, and if you guys cannot accept what’s already lost, you’ll probably lose the rest too.
Sorry, and I know it’s been a very depressing weekend.
Putin has gone
To 1st way - 1st world
The usa is
3rd way - 3rd world
Gog backward usa
MaGog backward nato
Rev 13
- According to you, anyone willing to have borders respected is a pro Biden now so suddenly? So, why on earth do you support Russia’s border violations in Ukraine? Why?
- According to you, the fact that I oppose the NeoSoviet-Iran-Hamas alliance makes me pro Biden? So, why do you support that alliance then? You don’t care about the lives of our Israeli and Ukraninan allies we have signed Security agreements with?
- According to you, the fact that I denounce Russias violation of borders makes me pro-Biden? Thus I presume you want America’s southern border to be violated as well? Why do you hate borders?
Why aren’t you denouncing the Neocon deep-state in Russia which is pushing for never-ending wars and has dedicated 40% (!!) of its entire national budget for its MIC (Military Industrial Complex.) That alone is ULTRA-Neocon! Right?
I think you are disconnected from reality.
LASTLY:
There are many “establishments”...
Which one of the ones below do you support?
A - The one that wants our traditional allies to be beaten by our traditional enemies?
B - The one that wants to keep our Southern border wide open?
C - The one that wants to protect our Southern border while helping our traditional allies against our traditional enemies.
I’m a patriot, so evidently I have chosen to support the establishment that supports moral Christian values : point “C”.
And you?
Your mind bounces around like a ping-pong ball. You seem to infer claims I never implied.
All along I stated that we don't have a dog in this hunt.
Actually Biden plays lip service to respecting borders in a foreign country while violating our borders here in the USA.
Your use of the term "NeoSoviet" tells us all, that you are one of the fools aching to start another Cold War. The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Los Angeles Times, and the rest of the American socialist big media use that term attempting to make us think that the end of the Cold War never happened.
I lived through it. I'll never forget my oldest brother attempting to dig a fallout shelter out on our bluff above the river during the Cuban Missile Crisis. I'll never forget also, when I was stationed overseas, walking out of our Comm Squadron building one morning after a midnight shift, seeing on the flight line a Soviet aircraft with the red banner including hammer and sickle painted on the fuselage sitting on a pad fifty feet away. The Portuguese were more friendly to the USSR after their 1974 coup.
Only a fool would think Vladimir Putin wants to reconstitute the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union was a failure and President Putin knows that because, as a KGB officer he watched it implode from within.
Regarding borders, the only border I am concerned with is our borders. If Biden had any respect for borders he would have kept them closed instead of taking down border walls that President Trump had built.
The United States right now is the only advocate of endless proxy wars. Biden left 10 billion dollars of United States military resources in Afghanistan for the Taliban to sell to the highest bidder. The Military Industrial Complex of the United States is now getting wealthy feeding the proxy wars we create.
As for being a patriot, are you a American patriot or a French patriot? A split allegiance is no allegiance at all.
Russia has 17 military bases within mostly the former Warsaw Pact nations with two in Syria. Contrast that with a United States presence, as of September 2022, 171,736 active-duty military troops across 178 countries.
So much for endless Russian wars. Stop spreading lies.
Here are my thoughts concerning your previous long reply.
higgmeister says:
Actually Biden plays lip service to respecting borders in a foreign country while violating our borders here in the USA.
USA-FRANCE answer:
That Biden has opened our border wide to civilian unarmed illegal aliens, yes, he unfortunately did that - and it’s not good for America.
And when it comes to Ukraine’s border, Biden has indeed pushed for Ukraine’s protection against a military armed invasion, just like Trump did.
Trump was the first representative of any Western nation to ship massive amounts of high-tech weaponry to Ukraine in order to protect its borders from a potential Russian attack. Obama had REFUSED to do just that. Obama only sent “pillows and blankets” to Ukraine.
Trump was the one who initiated the whole process of sending weapons to Ukraine. Europe decided to do the same later on.
Generally speaking, EU’s help to Ukraine is now twice as large as America’s help.
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higgmeister says:
Your use of the term “NeoSoviet” tells us all, that you are one of the fools aching to start another Cold War. The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Los Angeles Times, and the rest of the American socialist big media use that term attempting to make us think that the end of the Cold War never happened.
USA-FRANCE answer:
Well the reason I use the term “NeoSoviet” is based on solid facts and the analysis of Russia’s history.
In essence the “Soviet Union” was a system based on terror and communism. But the 1991 Russian revolution ended that.
Today Russia has dumped its communist past… but it kept its behavior of terrorizing its own people and aggressivity towards other nations.
It invades, annexes, assassinates, infiltrates...
The actual behavior and principles of the Russian Government today is basically the same as it was during the Soviet era.
Thats why the term “NeoSoviet” is fair. But as I said, they are not communists anymore.
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higgmeister says:
I lived through it. I’ll never forget my oldest brother attempting to dig a fallout shelter out on our bluff above the river during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
USA-FRANCE answer:
You said “…out on our bluff…”
“Our” bluff!? So you don’t believe Russia was on the verge of launching a nuclear war against us? Well, you are mistaken on that.
We finally outsmarted the Russians and managed to take pictures of their nuclear missiles they secretly installed on Cuba for God’s sake! Was THAT a bluff?? Clearly it wasn’t.
I congratulate your older brother for being smart and having good instincts.
Preppers are planners, stockpiling resources, and preparing for known threats. Survivalists are adaptors, honing skills to survive in any situation, regardless of the specific threat. Maybe your brother was a bit of that. I highly respect that.
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higgmeister says:
Only a fool would think Vladimir Putin wants to reconstitute the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union was a failure and President Putin knows that because, as a KGB officer he watched it implode from within.
USA-FRANCE answer:
I already partly answered that above, but let me add this:
Putin is indeed a KGB man. They later became FSB, with exactly the same men and philosophy as the KGB. Just some rebranding.
The KGB / FSB is Russia’s Deep-State. They never had to answer for their crimes against their own people (and others) after WWII, because they were among the winners of that war. They got a pass… and continued their reign of terror for many more decade - they created the Cold War.
Because they won WWII there was never a demand for them to “desovietize” Russia.
However, Germany had to “denazify” though… because they lost the war. Thus, there are no nazis in Germany’s power-structure today.
In essence the Soviets remained unharmed in Russia’s power-structure though. Today, Putin just put some slight different flavor to it, ended the communist part of it, kept all the brutality and blood policies intact, plus some final adjustments… et voila! The NeoSoviet autocracy is born.
So… is Russia today Soviet? NO.
Is Russia today NeoSoviet? YES.
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higgmeister says:
The United States right now is the only advocate of endless proxy wars.
USA-FRANCE answer:
In modern times, post WWII, Russia has invaded and annexed so many places and countries its unbelievable. They even use Wagner in Africa in a kind of NeoColonialism there, sucking up the goldmines…
During that same time which are the countries or places annexed by the USA?
Zero! By that I mean NONE.
An you talk about “Americas” proxy wars, hm!? America doesn’t spend its time annexing other nations, period.
An now listen to this…. Russia has been collaborating with Iran/Hamas to launch a terror war against our Israeli allies. A way to deflect Western resources away from the Ukrainian front. It worked. Russians are unfortunately good chess-players (even though Ronald Reagan outsmarted them).
Here is Israel’s Likud party responding to the Iran-Russia-Hamas alliance :(viral video):
https://twitter.com/eha_news/status/1715046871129841881
Putin ‘forming axis of terror’ as he welcomes Hamas and Iran to Moscow
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/10/26/putin-forming-axis-of-terror-welcomes-hamas-iran-moscow/
So please. The “proxy wars” king of the world is… Russia.
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higgmeister says:
Biden left 10 billion dollars of United States military resources in Afghanistan for the Taliban to sell to the highest bidder. The Military Industrial Complex of the United States is now getting wealthy feeding the proxy wars we create.
USA-FRANCE answer:
Your talk about Americas MIC (Military Industrial Complex) while occulting the fact that Russia is feeding ITS OWN MIC right now with 40% of Russia’s ENTIRE national budget!! And to top it all, it actually seems to boost their economy!
Russia has no qualms with their own MIC apparently. Only a few hippie-republicans (like Gaetz) are masochistically complaining about our own American MIC and against the many American workers within it. You see, I praise the American worker, wether they work for the military or not.
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higgmeister says:
As for being a patriot, are you a American patriot or a French patriot? A split allegiance is no allegiance at all.
USA-FRANCE answer:
My family has been split between America, France and Scandinavia over a period of 250 years and still is today.
My allegiance is toward Christian values, civilized Western unwoke culture, law and order, the respect for border integrity, and Freedom First.
Basically I simply support common sense. Many in America, France and Scandinavia share those common values.
My family has been fighting communism for as long as long as I can remember and I have been a reservist within a “Western” army for many years. During that time I learned all about Russia’s tactics. They are truly master’s in infiltration. Nobody can deceive and deceit as efficiently as they do.
When I say “they”, I refer to the Kremlinists, not the Russian people. The Russian people are enduring the madness from their leaders even more than we do! They are merely just canon fodder. They have no rights. They can’t protest against their own Government. The pay high taxes to fund for-ever wars and costly annexation adventures….
Peacefully mourning for opposition leader Navalny, showing up in the streets of Moscow with a flower in your hand will get you in prison for many years…
Russia is a military conquest machine, built from the ground up to kill. Russia is not made for civilians.
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higgmeister says: Russia has 17 military bases within mostly the former Warsaw Pact nations with two in Syria. Contrast that with a United States presence, as of September 2022, 171,736 active-duty military troops across 178 countries.
USA-FRANCE answer:
The difference between America and Russia is that America is a Capitalistic Constitutional Republic and Russia is an Oligarch NeoSoviet (imperialist) State.
Russia has in all its existence been in expansion mode. It’s a MASSIVE country and that helped the Kremlin forcing its will on others (just like a bully in school), stealing others stuff, countries and land areas.
That is the reason America has so many bases around the world - trying to contain the massive bullying Russia-Monster as much as possible.
America is not using those bases to conquer nations or to conquer Russia or to annex any country. It uses those bases solely to make sure America’s security remains certain. Those many US bases keeps America secure from any military invasion or intimidation from other foreign forces.
However… we are bad at protecting or homeland against droves of foreign unarmed civilian migrants… Same problem in Europe…
Unless Congress appropriates trillions for DoD them we must push for an Armistice. The Russians are not going to back down, especially on Crimea. Of course Putin is a War Criminal. But we have made ourselves helpless on this over the past 20 years.
John McCain says that the year of the fighting will be 2017. President Trump got in office and stopped this warmongering, but the NeoCons teemed up with the Democrats to cheat President Trump out of his second term, and Biden was in there raring to go.
President Putin was then forced to take action against this Machiavellian skulduggery.
I didn't need to read whatever lies you wanted to tell.
This is from Amy Klobuchar's own Senate website: Klobuchar, McCain, Graham in Ukraine, Baltic States, and Georgia to Reinforce Support for NATO With Focus on Cybersecurity - December 28, 2016
Note the Buzz word Cybersecurity with the lie that Russia torpedoed Hillary in 2016, but McCain said the Ukrainians would be fighting the Russians in 2017.
You didn’t read my “lies” you say.... (that’s a bit lazy of you, no?)
I have a very different, less autocratic philosophy - thus I thoroughly read everything that is sent to me. No matter if it’s the truth or false.
The video you sent me was great, but Lindsey Graham was truly soft on Russia there. I guess he wanted to show his diplomatic side.
We don’t need soft-ball Lindsey politics. It’s way too weak.
What we need is true tough Trump polices against Russia.
In a year, Trump will make Anti-Russia polices Great Again!
Trump will continue to defend Ukraine as he spectacularly did when he was president.
Here are 40 points the Trump Administration did in support for Ukraine and to resist Russia’s aggressions against America’s interests, it’s all official and all verified. Not lies, you can verify it all online yourself, if you like.
The TRUMP’s administration did this:
Arming Ukraine: The U.S. provided lethal military aid, including Javelin anti-tank missiles, to support Ukraine in countering Russian-backed separatists.
Rejection of Russia’s Annexation of Crimea: Trump’s administration consistently rejected Russia’s annexation of Crimea and supported Ukraine’s territorial integrity.
Support for European Allies: The Trump administration reaffirmed its commitment to supporting Eastern European countries against potential Russian aggression.
Withdrawal from INF Treaty: The U.S. under Trump officially withdrew from the INF Treaty, citing Russia’s violations.
Imposition of Sanctions: The Trump administration imposed several rounds of sanctions on Russia for actions like election interference, annexation of Crimea, and human rights abuses.
Expulsion of Russian Diplomats: In response to the Skripal poisoning in the UK, the U.S. expelled 60 Russian diplomats and closed the Russian consulate in Seattle.
Increased NATO Military Spending: Trump pressured NATO allies to increase defense spending to enhance the alliance’s capabilities against potential Russian aggression.
Condemnation of Nord Stream 2: Trump criticized the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline project between Russia and Germany, expressing concerns over energy dependence and geopolitical leverage.
Accusations of Russian Cyberattacks: Trump’s administration publicly accused Russia of cyberattacks, including election interference and targeting critical infrastructure.
Suspension of INF Treaty Compliance: Before formally withdrawing from the INF Treaty, the U.S. suspended obligations under the treaty in response to Russia’s alleged violations.
Support for the Three Seas Initiative: The Trump administration expressed support for the Three Seas Initiative, promoting cooperation among Central and Eastern European countries to reduce dependence on Russian energy.
Presence in the Black Sea: The U.S. increased its naval presence in the Black Sea region to support allies and counter potential Russian aggression.
Magnitsky Act Enforcement: The Trump administration continued to enforce the Magnitsky Act, imposing sanctions on Russian officials accused of human rights abuses and corruption.
Expansion of U.S. Liquefied Natural Gas Exports: Trump aimed to increase U.S. LNG exports to Europe to decrease European reliance on Russian gas.
Sanctions on Russian Oligarchs: The U.S. imposed sanctions on Russian oligarchs with close ties to the Kremlin.
Support for Georgia and Moldova: The Trump administration reaffirmed support for Georgia and Moldova’s sovereignty and territorial integrity.
U.S. Cyber Command Actions: The U.S. Cyber Command took actions to disrupt Russian cyber operations.
Energy Diplomacy in Eastern Europe: Trump pursued energy diplomacy to promote energy diversification in Eastern Europe, reducing reliance on Russian gas.
U.S. Troop Deployment to Poland: The U.S. announced the deployment of 1,000 troops to Poland to counter Russian aggression.
Opposition to Russia’s Syria Policy: The U.S. opposed Russia’s military intervention in Syria and supported the opposition to President Bashar al-Assad.
Russian Private Military Companies Sanctions: The U.S. imposed sanctions on Russian private military companies, including Wagner Group.
Support for Belarusian Democracy: The Trump administration supported pro-democracy efforts in Belarus following disputed elections and protests.
Sanctions on Russian Banks: The U.S. imposed sanctions on Russian banks, including Sberbank and VTB Bank, for their roles in supporting Russian actions.
Export Controls on Technology: The U.S. tightened export controls on certain technology items to prevent their use in Russia’s military and intelligence activities.
Increased Military Aid to Eastern European Allies: The U.S. increased military aid and training to Eastern European countries, enhancing their defense capabilities.
Opposition to Russia’s Annexation of South Ossetia: The Trump administration opposed Russia’s recognition of South Ossetia’s independence from Georgia.
Support for Montenegro’s NATO Membership: The Trump administration supported Montenegro’s accession to NATO, despite Russian opposition.
Criticism of Russia’s Nuclear Weapons Development: Trump criticized Russia’s development of new nuclear weapons and delivery systems.
Support for Ukraine’s Reforms: The U.S. supported Ukraine’s reform efforts and anti-corruption measures.
Expanding the Black Sea Maritime Security Initiative: The U.S. expanded the initiative to enhance security cooperation among Black Sea countries.
Opposition to Russia’s Actions in Venezuela: The U.S. opposed Russia’s support for Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro during the political crisis.
U.S. Embassy Move in Israel: While not directly related to Russia, Trump’s decision to move the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem drew criticism from Russia and other countries.
Strengthening U.S. Cyber Defenses: The Trump administration worked to improve U.S. cybersecurity to counter potential Russian cyber threats.
U.S. Support for International Organizations: The U.S. supported international organizations that took actions against Russia, such as the UN and OPCW.
Criticism of Russia’s Intervention in Ukraine’s Presidential Elections: The U.S. condemned Russia’s interference in Ukraine’s elections.
Sanctions on Russian Intelligence Officers: The U.S. imposed sanctions on Russian intelligence officers involved in cyberattacks.
Refusal to Recognize Abkhazia’s Independence: The Trump administration did not recognize Abkhazia as an independent state, aligning with Georgia’s position.
Support for Kosovo-Serbia Dialogue: The U.S. supported the dialogue between Kosovo and Serbia, which Russia opposed due to its close ties with Serbia.
Support for Eastern Partnership Countries: The Trump administration supported the Eastern Partnership countries’ sovereignty and territorial integrity in the face of Russian pressure.
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