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74 Ukrainian POWs killed in Russia plane crash
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Posted on 01/24/2024 3:36:20 AM PST by janetjanet998

74 people killed in Russia plane crash, no survivor Ministry says 65 Ukrainian prisoners of war on plane that crashed


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To: BobL

Flying a transport out of that airfield was negligent. They knew it was in SAM coverage.


41 posted on 01/24/2024 5:38:34 AM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

“Flying a transport out of that airfield was negligent. They knew it was in SAM coverage.”

So much for you saying that Russia didn’t notify Ukraine. I guess you’ll go back to saying that Russia is lying, since you guys have nothing else.

“Confirming that everyone aboard was killed in the attack, the ministry said that the Ukrainian leadership was well aware of the flight and its mission.”

https://www.rt.com/russia/591206-ukraine-deliberately-shot-down-plane/


42 posted on 01/24/2024 5:48:00 AM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: janetjanet998

How many pilots? Zero?


43 posted on 01/24/2024 5:48:10 AM PST by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT)
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To: buwaya

You got to be kidding. There is so much disinformation in this war it’s difficult to know what the facts are.

Prisoners of war are typically captured in a war zone, that does not constitute holding a prisoner in a war zone.

The Ruskies were transporting them some place, likely out of the war zone. How do we know that they never notified anyone?

And is the Uke communications system so good that if the Ruskies did tell someone, that those manning the antiaircraft weapons knew or even cared about it?

For crying out loud, this is not a gentleman’s game of chess. This is war where things happen, governments lie, military leaders cheat, huge mistakes are made and people actually get killed.


44 posted on 01/24/2024 5:55:50 AM PST by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not mater how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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To: BobL

Then the Ukrainians have to respond. If they knew that specific flight was bringing POWs then it was Ukrainian negligence or some other fault.


45 posted on 01/24/2024 5:55:59 AM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: redfreedom

Regardless, POW treatment is specifically covered in detail in the Geneva convention. It is supposed to be followed, on penalty of international and national consequences. The US (and other civilized nations) prosecutes its own defaulters.


46 posted on 01/24/2024 5:59:36 AM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: BobL; canuck_conservative
Well, we know the noble and pure Ukranians would NEVER lie about anything especially in wartime. Only Russians lie. All the time. Zelensky is as truthful as Biden so whatever he says, you can bank on it. somebodys banking on it and big.
47 posted on 01/24/2024 6:03:55 AM PST by BipolarBob (My investment choice for 2024 is pre-ban menthol cigarettes. )
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To: buwaya

“Then the Ukrainians have to respond. If they knew that specific flight was bringing POWs then it was Ukrainian negligence or some other fault.”

Agree. Someone screwed up. My hunch is that the Ukrainian government was properly notified, but it didn’t flow down properly to the parties that control the missiles as I also doubt that the Ukrainians would intentionally shoot down a plane full of their POWs.


48 posted on 01/24/2024 6:17:46 AM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: BobL

You don’t think it better they die this way than face what the Ukraine government was going to do to them?


49 posted on 01/24/2024 6:31:17 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: janetjanet998

I’m skeptical about this story. POWs are generally not transported by aircraft, especially one also carrying critical military equipment. And, if this was shot down in the Belgorod region, that critical military equipment was either being removed FROM the war zone in Ukraine or the POWs were being returned TO the war zone in Ukraine. The article mentions “conflicting reports.”

IF there were POWs on board, protocol requires that information be provided to the proper parties.

This might just be Russian psy-ops. But we’ll see how this story develops.


50 posted on 01/24/2024 6:34:03 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ansel12

“You don’t think it better they die this way than face what the Ukraine government was going to do to them?”

Do you guys still think Russia blew up their own pipeline so as to cause our side to get blamed and thus look bad?

In other words, just having some fun conspiracy-theory speculating, like you guys keep doing...


51 posted on 01/24/2024 6:38:06 AM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: BobL

That was a yes?


52 posted on 01/24/2024 6:41:18 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

Just having fun with you guys!


53 posted on 01/24/2024 6:44:01 AM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: BobL

I’m not “you guys” and I don’t post lies, but you are.

You have posted that you think the Ukraine government considers their POWs traitors and that it was probably better for the POWs to die this way than face what was going to be done to them.


54 posted on 01/24/2024 6:48:21 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

What part of the word “think” do you guys not understand?


55 posted on 01/24/2024 6:54:22 AM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: BobL

So that was a yes, it is what you think and you weren’t just trolling people to get a rise out of them.


56 posted on 01/24/2024 7:00:28 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

Your words, not mine (as usual).


57 posted on 01/24/2024 7:02:23 AM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: BobL

There are two threads currently running on this and you are posting to both of them.

You posted “The Ukrainians likely consider POWs as traitors. It’s probably better for them to die this way, versus what could be in store for them if they made it home.”


58 posted on 01/24/2024 7:04:54 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

Whatever - I respond to comments.


59 posted on 01/24/2024 7:07:05 AM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: rx

Youre incredibly stupid. Stop yrying to make the Ukes into some sort of heroes. They were killed by their own side which shot down the plane. Doh!


60 posted on 01/24/2024 8:01:40 AM PST by libertarian66
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