Posted on 12/20/2023 5:17:11 PM PST by SeekAndFind
How far can gratitude for what former President Trump accomplished — and rage against the Deep State/Democrats — take you in an election? That's the existential question Republicans need to be asking right now. Is it worth going down with the ship to send a message to those persecuting Trump? What should be our goals at this pivotal moment in history? Avenging Trump or winning the 2024 election at all costs — even if Trump has to take one for the team?
Radio talker Steve Deace warned yesterday that if Republicans don't start living in reality, there won't be a country to leave behind for our children.
"The future of the country is at stake, and we all recognize that," he began. "But right now, on a very practical level, things that every previous generation of Americans except during the Great Depression took for granted, we are on the brink of not being able to take for granted anymore."
He listed as examples being able to buy a home or a car and not having to worry about their child dying of a fentanyl overdose because Joe Biden left the border wide open.
"We are on the brink right now, as a people, of the kinds of things that, if you read history books, civilizations don't come back from," he added. "I've never been 'this is the most important election of our lifetime.' Guys, I hate that, okay, but I really believe this year is a win-or-go-home kind of election in 2024. We have to win."
Deace insisted that Ron DeSantis, based on his record as Florida governor, is the one who can lead the GOP to victory.
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Free Republic should not entertain any person or posts about the possibility of losing.
And your tag line is “Don’t be a pansy”. Priceless.
Sad to say, Mister Trump has zero chance in the general, and it’s all on Trump.
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Then the other Republicans have no chance at all, they’re shitty candidates that won’t come close to 74 million votes.
That’s all on Haley, DeSantis, Christie, etc, they’re losers & suckers with very little political talent.
As I said,
Trump is the face of the MAGA movement.
desanctus does not represent MAGA.
if anything, desantis is some pseudo imitation 3rd rate copy that want’s to claim he’s as good as the real thing, if you can’t have Trump.
And it isn’t worth the time to attempt real arguements with you, because you use the tactics of the left, which are to
misdirect
go off on tangents
and move the goal posts
and finally, do personal attacks
when someone has tried to pin you down on things before.
Especially now, when you have shown how illogical you are, in believing, the left disqualified Trump in colorado, so more people would support Trump, because the left wants to run Trump against biden.
Because, as desantis says, they are afraid desantis can win the presidency.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4204759/posts
So, short answer, you can’t or won’t offer the comparison because it would show no big differences, which would diminish your support for Trump.
I’m always amazed at the logic
They were unfair to Trump
But they have to be fair to DeSantis
Or insert any number of iterations of this anti Republican game
you probably wouldn’t have liked many great leaders of their time in the past either because they weren’t eloquent speakers or made you feel good all the time.
Trump speaks truth of what is going on, he’s taken shots from all angles for the US people, he helped more groups of people in the country and world wide in his first term with hands basically tied behind his back and he just kept kicking and doing much good for USA and world.
And if you don’t like hearing truth of real things going on to destroy our country, and you care more about how what he makes you feel, then you got bigger issues.
“DeSantis is MAGA. So we are good with him, better in my opinion. No drama, no baggage, just lots of successes and a real conservative and a veteran on top of it all.”
^^^A lie from the pit of hell.
Is it maga to lie to people voting for you for goin so you can win and then start campaigning ( in secret, but so obvious to anyone with eyes open) for president?
Is it maga to lie?
No drama - nope, just a campaign staff dropping like flies and numerous “resets” because Ron’s so perfect a candidate/sarc
Ron’s set the people in FL up for many big falls with many things he has implemented. He isn’t conservative look at his voting record and what he supported and didn’t support.
If Ron cared in the least for the actual people of FL he would have stopped all invaders in his state, not keep allowing them in, ship some to other states spreading illegals further into the country. Ron has much dirty and likely blood on his hands, crimes he enabled, from doing that.
he and his power hungry wife are just Hillary and Bill 2.0, greedy, self-serving but pretend so the public thinks your some thing great.
I’ll continue to point out when you factually tell lies and mis-representations.
But it is impossible to argue against people with illogical thinking, such as what you have said, that the left is attacking and using lawfare against Trump, because they want to increase his support from the right.
because they want to run biden against Trump, and not desantis.
Ah, but you can’t answer the question. Your habit repeated over and over again is to claim lies but then be silent when asked to put up or shut up. You always shut up. No different here. Have a nice evening.
being “offended” is the choice of the person feeling it.
Truth is offensive to many.
Jesus offended many in his time and since!
Those many many offended R’s and I’s you wrote of need a good sized dose of Jesus and to get over themselves. If you believe in God and His son Jesus you are not supposed to feel offended, you are to die to your old self and not take things personally because your life is not your own anymore, you gave it to the Lord, you are to forgive those you think have offended you and pray for them. Any of them Rs or I’s forgiving Trump? Praying for him? No they are sulking in their selfish feelings.
On another angle, the House should add hearings to potentially revise the laws implementing the 25th Amendment. For which that Amendment provides. Many are concerned those laws aren't producing the expected effect Those to whom Congress gave the power to trigger the "President is incompetent" process aren't using it. With great power comes great responsibility isn't the law, it's Spiderman. But maybe it or something like it should be added to make those with the power under that law more responsible. As an interested party with a long notable record overseeing changes to the law, Joe Biden would be a suitable witness to question regarding any possible changes to that law. And as his son prefers, let Joe testify in public. Any with his record, worthy of continued service as President, should have cogent useful options thereon to offer.
>>Trump is going to be in prison.
>Such will be the line crossed to bring out a million plus lone wolves.
>No comms, no social media connections; just each acting on their own.
This. Taking care of business, scratching out one line at a time on the long list. The list of $hitbags who got it coming and good. No coming back when it goes down
Well we can’t march in the streets to protest. They will lock people up like they did the Jan. 6th folks. This has all been quite orchestrated. Just when you think you can’t despise Dems anymore.........
Oh that’s BS. Typical whitewash attempt.
Likely erases the 269-269 talk
If they steal the election again, the country will slip into self destruct mode and will never recover. All the good things we had growing up will be gone and America will die.
I watched it and saw none of what you saw and heard DeSantis rationally say “ I believe the decision is political and will be reversed” , He did not say that those delegates are mine. you must be paraphrasing.
Listen I’m a Trump guy, voted,donated and campaigned with Trump-in 16 and 20 and will again but we have to stop this attempt at demonizing his GOP rivals and name calling or we, Trump and Trump voters will lose-and they won’t even have to cheat tthis time-you just have to get out and talk to conservative voters, and more importantly independent voters-they hate this stuff-we can’t win with just die hard Trump voters
The only way trump was ever going to win is if we enter a recession.
Because DeSantis is controllable like a Bush. He can win if they decide it’s a year for an illusion of choice. Not with my vote, though. I’ll write in DJT if need be.
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