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What if They've Rigged the Game to the Point That Trump CAN'T Win?
PJ Media ^ | 12/20/2023 | Paula Bolyard

Posted on 12/20/2023 5:17:11 PM PST by SeekAndFind

How far can gratitude for what former President Trump accomplished — and rage against the Deep State/Democrats — take you in an election? That's the existential question Republicans need to be asking right now. Is it worth going down with the ship to send a message to those persecuting Trump? What should be our goals at this pivotal moment in history? Avenging Trump or winning the 2024 election at all costs — even if Trump has to take one for the team?

Radio talker Steve Deace warned yesterday that if Republicans don't start living in reality, there won't be a country to leave behind for our children.

"The future of the country is at stake, and we all recognize that," he began. "But right now, on a very practical level, things that every previous generation of Americans except during the Great Depression took for granted, we are on the brink of not being able to take for granted anymore."

He listed as examples being able to buy a home or a car and not having to worry about their child dying of a fentanyl overdose because Joe Biden left the border wide open.

"We are on the brink right now, as a people, of the kinds of things that, if you read history books, civilizations don't come back from," he added. "I've never been 'this is the most important election of our lifetime.' Guys, I hate that, okay, but I really believe this year is a win-or-go-home kind of election in 2024. We have to win."

Deace insisted that Ron DeSantis, based on his record as Florida governor, is the one who can lead the GOP to victory.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2024; bushcrimefamily; cheating; concerntrolls; cruzmouthpiece; deacecruz; deacederino; deacedesantis; desantisvoter; election; electionfraud; nevertrumper; rigging; rino89519; rinos4desantis; rinosareenemywithin; rinosaretraitors; rinosedition; rinosurrendermonkeys; seekandtroll; stevedeace; surrendermonkey; tdsbs; tedcruzrino; trump; whatifyourearino
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To: SeekAndFind

But DeSantis, or Haley, or Christie “leading the GOP to victory” would be meaningless - another Romney - Obama election where the Deep State wins whoever comes out ahead.


41 posted on 12/20/2023 6:05:53 PM PST by Jim Noble (The future belongs to those who show up)
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To: Leaning Right

They don’t mind getting crushed as long as they get a proper reach around, and get to lick whatever remains in the federal feed trough the democrats have feasted from.


42 posted on 12/20/2023 6:08:45 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: SeekAndFind

IF ????
How do you think Biden became president ?
Two weeks before the 2020 election, Biden showed up at a press conference, and to ensure a respectable turnout, Obama showed up. The result ? Aside from the media, a total 12 people attended. Contemporaneous to this event, Trump was holding rallies across the country with tens of thousands in attendance at every event. There was ZERO support for Biden, and he hid in his basement in Maryland for the remainder of the campaign.
The media is very adept at getting people to forget what actually happened.
There’s no possible way on earth that Joe Biden won the 2020 election, it’s mathematically impossible.
This is yet another reason the liberal elites are terrified of a Trump victory. He WILL be able to prove beyond any doubt whatsoever that he won in 2020, at which point many, many people will be going to prison. Additionally, it means that nothing Biden signed into law was legal, including the massive federal budgets. None of his executive orders are legal, and his entire presidency will be null and void.
The Democrat Party will collapse, and to paraphrase Lincoln, “… there will be a rebirth of freedom…”
The liberal elites know the real consequences of a Trump victory, and they’re currently seeking real estate in countries with no extradition treaties to the US.


43 posted on 12/20/2023 6:22:25 PM PST by Thapsus_epiphany (Socialism is a prison, Communism is a death camp )
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To: Jim Noble
>>Trump is going to be in prison.

Such will be the line crossed to bring out a million plus lone wolves.

No comms, no social media connections; just each acting on their own.

44 posted on 12/20/2023 6:26:00 PM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Mister Trump cannot win the general election.

He's made wayyyy too many enemies within what should be his own camp.

(Don't blame me, I'll always vote for the GOPer), but many among the many, many offended Republicans and Indies will stay home, or vote for the Dem out of indignant score settling with a name caller and needless insulter.

Sad to say, Mister Trump has zero chance in the general, and it's all on Trump.

45 posted on 12/20/2023 6:27:44 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never...in nothing, great or small...Winston ChurchIill)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m not voting for Trump to avenge him. I want him to avenge me.


46 posted on 12/20/2023 6:28:14 PM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: Seaplaner

Exactly what a loyal democrat would say.


47 posted on 12/20/2023 6:37:27 PM PST by Lower55
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To: Reno89519

Is that you Nikke?


48 posted on 12/20/2023 6:39:13 PM PST by CapnJack ( )
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To: SeekAndFind
Deace insisted that Ron DeSantis, based on his record as Florida governor, is the one who can lead the GOP to victory.

Just another poster pushing articles shilling for desantis

Yep......

desanctimonious is the one that can win, with 9% or so of the republican base

the desantis supporters/nevertrumpers are delusional and demented, and are desperately reaching for anything to win....

even desantis, with his 'the left want Trump to win, because they are afraid of desantis'

49 posted on 12/20/2023 6:42:59 PM PST by backpacker_c
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To: usafa92

the desantis supporters/nevertrumpers have said multiple times that the left hates Trump, so will commit fraud to keep him from being elected...

But desantis is more likeable, so they won’t do that to desantis.

Really....

Yes, that is crazy talk.


50 posted on 12/20/2023 6:44:52 PM PST by backpacker_c
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To: CapnJack

No Jeb, you got me mixed up with someone else.


51 posted on 12/20/2023 6:47:22 PM PST by Reno89519 (It's war. No one murders and takes Americans hostage. Time to act. Declare war on Islamic Hamas.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If Trump can’t outperform the cheat, then DeSantis sure as hell can’t - unless he’s already been bought off.


52 posted on 12/20/2023 6:48:50 PM PST by mbrfl
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To: Reno89519

More lies from reno89519.....

‘DeSantis is MAGA.’

No, Trump represents the MAGA movement.

desanctimonious represents the lying, corrupt, GOPe rino uniparty.


53 posted on 12/20/2023 6:49:06 PM PST by backpacker_c
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To: SeekAndFind

Civil War. It’s almost a given now. Prepare.


54 posted on 12/20/2023 6:50:07 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Lazamataz

There are too many guns in the hands of conservatives for them to be that blatant at stealing each election from now.

A deep state pubbie will be allowed to win an election, every once in a while, to give the illusion of a ‘fair’ vote.


55 posted on 12/20/2023 6:50:50 PM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian ( Ceterum autem censeo Justinius True-dope-us esse delendam. sic semper tyrannis.)
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To: backpacker_c
WHAT LIES? You keep saying it like a rant, maybe thinking if you say it often enough, and you sure try, that it will make it true. Funny, priceless, or is it precious?

So, explain topic by topic where DeSantis and Trump are or are not MAGA. Curious to see your point-by-point comparison.

Where to start, maybe border wall?

56 posted on 12/20/2023 6:52:17 PM PST by Reno89519 (It's war. No one murders and takes Americans hostage. Time to act. Declare war on Islamic Hamas.)
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To: SeekAndFind

we know all this....elections are fraud....and once they get in, they make it impossible to remove them....I keep hearing about these white hats.....


57 posted on 12/20/2023 6:54:27 PM PST by cherry
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To: Reno89519
"No one has to rig the election for Trump to lose. He's got a core base that laps up his insults, stories, and martyrdom. But that loses others, like me. It loses independents, women, and others. His core is shrinking every time he opens his mouth.

I'm sure there is rigging and fraud planned and will occur, but I don't think that will be required to do Trump in."











58 posted on 12/20/2023 6:57:32 PM PST by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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To: Deaf Smith

You are talking to one of the resident trolls that has been allowed to stick around for all of these years, for some reason.


59 posted on 12/20/2023 7:00:07 PM PST by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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To: Reno89519

>>”MAGA is a movement, DeSantis is MAGA.”

This the crux of your confusion. DeSantis is NOT MAGA. That’s clear to anyone who’s looking at this objectively. If he were MAGA, he would be helping to unify the party behind the MAGA candidate who’s far ahead of all the others. He’d be fighting the lawfare aimed at Trump rather than arguing that it’s inevitable (while also clearly hoping it will succeed). If he were MAGA, he would have acknowledged that 2020 was stolen.


60 posted on 12/20/2023 7:03:22 PM PST by mbrfl
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