Posted on 12/15/2023 8:50:08 AM PST by rktman
Tim Wollack and his daughter, Henley, were on a fishing trip at Lake Michigan when they thought they saw an elusive Green Bay octopus hovering beneath their boat, the Wisconsin Historical Society said in a Facebook post. But what they actually uncovered was a shipwreck that had been missing for more than 152 years.
Officials believe the boat is the George L. Newman.
“Working with Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources Conservation Warden Mike Neal, the shipwreck was investigated with Video Ray ROV on December 4,” the society noted in the post. “The wreck is of a wooden three masted sailing ship and is in 8 to 10 feet of water. Although the identity of the wreck has yet been confirmed, the location and current available data fits with that of the barkentine George L. Newman.”
The ship was never marked on any historical or nautical charts, despite its impressive size and connection to the area. It’s believed that on the evening of Oct. 8, 1871, the ship was sailing through the smoke of the Great Peshtigo Fire, one of the deadliest in American history. It’s said the fire claimed roughly 1,500 or more lives. The barquentine was carrying lumber from Little Suamico when it was likely grounded off the southeast point of Green Island.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...
Green Bay octopus?! There are octopi inLame Michigan? Gaaaaah!
Sharks in Tahoe!
The Peshtigo fire was the same day as “The Great Chicago Fire”.
Got buried in the aftermath of the Chicago fire.
There was a huge forest fire in 1894 in Minnesota (the Great Hinkley Fire) that was caused by dry weather and the huge amounts of slash left on the ground after cutting timber.
There was an old lady at our cabin that had lived through it as a child. She and her family fled to a swamp/lake and hunkered down in the water for a long time.
number of factors contributed to the destruction caused by the Great Fire of 1910. The wildfire season started early that year because the winter of 1909–1910 and the spring and summer of 1910 were extremely dry, and the summer sufficiently hot to have been described as "like no others." The drought resulted in forests with abundant dry fuel, in an area which had previously experienced dependable autumn and winter moisture. Hundreds of fires were ignited by hot cinders flung from locomotives, sparks, lightning, and backfiring crews. By mid-August, there were 1,000 to 3,000 individual fires burning in Idaho, Montana, and Washington."Like no others" -- LOL...where do we keep hearing that?
You can hike outside Wallace, ID and see the famous Pulaski tunnel where he saved 40 men from the inferno. You can still see a few charred stumps from that fire, too.
A few years ago I did some internet research wondering why the forest fires in the west were so bad, whereas in Georgia and other places in the SE weren’t.
They USED to be bad in the SE. But now the forests in the SE are managed so much (I think much of it is private land) that they have much better practices (more like crops) so they can harvest more and rarely have fires anymore.
Of course out west we still have the fires in the summer. Obviously the local climates are a factor, but a huge part of it is how the forests get managed.
“a huge part of it is how the forests get managed”
Indeed. It seems that the most liberal states with the most extreme anti-management practices have the worst fires. Just a qualitative observation.
They mistook a shipwreck for an octopus?
Say WHAT?
During the era when most Great Lakes cargo went on wood ships (and many of those were not huge), just the known wrecks averaged something like every six days. Freshwater waves come in more often than seawater waves, and can break a ship more quickly. I talked once with one of the guys that used Clive Cussler’s sub to look for wrecks, and said many of the recent wrecks appear to be insurance scams — stripped of anything that can be quietly sold later and scuttled during purported night cruises while a buddy is nearby to get him back to shore.
Thanks!
Wiki —>
Released shortly after the United States' entry into World War II, Reap the Wild Wind was wildly successful at the box office and earned three Academy Award nominations, winning for Best Special Effects.In 1840, Loxi Claiborne is running a marine salvage business started by her deceased father. A hurricane is passing through the Key West area, leaving behind at least one wreck on the nearby shoals. The Jubilee founders, and Loxi and other salvagers race to claim the cargo. Not arriving first, Loxi and her crew rescue the captain, Jack Stuart, but do not share in the salvage rights. Apparently, the first salvager on the scene, King Cutler, may have actually planned the wreck.
Im pretty well versed on my monsters, especially local ones. There was a Nessie type creature reported further south in Lake Michigan proper during the 1800s, not over in the bay. Having said that, there were many people at that time that started to understand the economic value of such an attraction to an area and suddenly many places around the US were swarmed with all sorts of beasties.
Local natives had a water panther type creature in the lake. For some reason plesiosaurs seemed more likely to settlers than giant tentacle creatures even back then.
The closest octopus monster that Im aware of was down in Devils Lake.
That was supposed to be a giant demonic octopus that appeared there for a couple of summers but was quickly forgotten about.
The closest thing to a sea monster we are proven to get here is rarely a tiny jellyfish that blooms in swarms and then disappears without most locals having ever seen one or believing that they exist.
No, it was a poorly delivered joke. See 32.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.