Posted on 12/01/2023 8:08:33 AM PST by janetjanet998
Rep. George Santos expelled from Congress after 311-114 vote
Not wanting to expell him without a conviction, thus setting an extremely dangerous new precedent, is NOT equivalent to “Covering up”
Good riddance.
Pathological liar that can’t be trusted. God only knows what he stole, what he’s willing to steal and from whom. Clearly he has no morals let alone ethics.
F him
What I meant was IMHO Madison assumed the constant churn of representatives every 2 years would prevent Congress from becoming a kleptocracy.
The Founder's design depended on a myriad of constantly moving parts to defeat the human instinct of holding power.
So I believe Madison never thought the conditions would exist to weaponize expulsion from congress as a purely partisan and political too.
Please. You think you need a conviction to be a horrible human being??
Be serious will you... Had the Press of the GOP remotely done their jobs Santos would never have been in congress.
Please point out to me the major group of the constituents in his district that are out there fighting to keep him... Please, please do so...
You can’t because it doesn’t exist.
Stop trying to portray this POS’s removal as some political cabal to remove some popular guy who wrong the establishment... that’s not what’s happened here..
A con artist who should have been caught, wasn’t due to lazy people in the GOP and the press, and now has been removed.
The pandora’s box argument is nonsensical.
It takes a 2/3 majority to expel a member! Stop the nonsense. This isn’t something where oh we have a slight majority so we are going to expel all the folks on the other side.
I know the public schools haven’t taught civics in decades, but get educated. You need 2/3 to expel. Santos didn’t get expelled over some ticky tack nonsense.. he got expelled because he’s a POS.
Please my foot. You think it's up to a bunch of elitist congress critters to a remove somebody in congress because they think the person is "a horrible person".
. Please point out to me the major group of the constituents in his district that are out there fighting to keep him... Please, please do so.
I'm in his district. I've now been disenfranchised.
good. i’ve been for getting rid of this grifter guy from the get go. actually it did him a favor, he can come clean and go back and get elected legitimately now if he’s of a mind.
first time i’ve opposed Gaetz on anything though. i understand his points, but it’s just immoral to support this guy in any way.
I believe he voted 100% MAGA. Those votes represented me. Now he's gone, because of people like you.
Thanks so much buddy.
I see and I believe you are correct.
Congress has also farmed out some of their authority to the Executive. It’s a great gig - do less work and get more $.
I don't know that they'll ALL lose, but your reason for the fluke outcomes of 2022 sounds logical.
The original hyper-gerrymander that the Democrats tried to force through prior to 2022 in New York was intended to have Republicans win only 4 of 26 House seats:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/redistricting-2022-maps/new-york/amended_democratic_proposal/
Thanks to getting a map that was less rigged in favor of the Rats (but STILL even more Democrat-friendly than 2020) and the fluke outcomes, the GOP managed to win 11 seats in what had to be the biggest shock of election night.
Eleven months from now people might be "shocked" when the majority of those flukes are reversed, but they really shouldn't be. That's going to happen even without further Democrat gerrymandering, but if the Rats get a new outrageous map anything like the one linked above, it's going to be super ugly.
I have an idea: expel Biden.
Expelling the squad would not get nearly 100 GOP votes.
You should be thanking him. He’s the liar and the mental case. You don’t feel duped?
Screw him. It’s time to hold our “leaders” to better standards. Let Menendez be the next to go. I’ll hold the door.
You should be thanking him. He’s the liar and the mental case. You don’t feel duped?
For the first time in decades, I had a congressman who ran correctly on the issues and who then voted correctly and you think I should feel duped?
Screw him. It’s time to hold our “leaders” to better standards.
The constitutional standard of due process would be a better standard than what you advocate.
Unless he's guilty of like killing somebody just like Ted Kennedy did when he was drunk and had his mistress drowned off the Chappaquiddick Island.
Conservatives shoot themselves in the foot again.
Rule 4 . “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
RULES FOR RADICALS Saul Alinsky
1. “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood.
2. “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.
3. “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.
4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.
6. “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.
7. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news.
8. “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.
9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.
10. “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.” It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.
11. “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.
12. “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.
13. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.
So, Democrats, McCarthy and a handful of establishment Republicans can vote out Gaetz? Precedent. Lauren, you hussy; expelled!
This is not good.
Please, you are going to fall on your sword for this POS that is Santos, then you enjoy living in the gutter with him.
Don’t like the constitution do you?
Its abundantly clear in the constitution that Congress and the Senate can indeed expel members and describes exactly how to do so.
You want to be mad, be mad at Santos, be mad at the GOP for not doing their due dilligence and be mad at the media for not doing its job... and finally BE MAD AT YOURSELF FOR FALLING FOR THE POS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Because the information on this turd, was indeed out there, for those who looked, but the media and the gop didn’t bother to look, and neither did you.
Enjoy the gutter.
Get informed....
2/3 to expel, stop this nonsense that ooo now folks are going to be expelled for anything... its nonsense.
This guy is a POS. Period. He should have never been on the ballot had the GOP or the Media remotely done their jobs..
Unbelievable.
Democrats never expel (D)s.
Only the stupid party expels (R)s.
After all, “we must hold ourselves to a higher standard” when they hold themselves to no standards at all.
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