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Royal Navy nuclear submarine equipped with Trident missiles 'suffered huge malfunction that sent the vessel into an endless dive - with engineers saving the 140 crew members moments before they faced being crushed by underwater pressure'
Daily Mail ^ | 11-19-23 | EIRIAN JANE PROSSER and Rory Tingle

Posted on 11/20/2023 3:04:49 AM PST by dynachrome

A Royal Navy nuclear submarine equipped with Trident missiles suffered a huge malfunction that sent it into an endless dive before the vessel was righted moments before the crew faced being crushed by underwater pressure, it was claimed today.

The Vanguard class sub had been carrying 140 crew when its depth gauge suddenly failed while on a mission in the Atlantic.

It caused a frantic scrabble with engineers managing to stop the submarine and its nuclear reactor from plunging further just moments before disaster struck.

The deep sea vessel, carrying Trident 2 missiles, was on patrol when the depth indicators stopped working, with its crew falsely believing it was level when in fact it was diving deeper into the ocean.

It was only when engineers at the back of the sub found a second gauge indicating they were headed towards the 'danger zone' that they sounded the alarm.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: nuclear; sabotage; submarine; uk; unitedkingdom
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To: bert

My mechanic uncle hated that otherwise beautiful car.

The TR6 to me is better looking than the 7.

I think my aunt still has it stored somewhere. A couple of times I heard restoration being mentioned.

That was years ago.


61 posted on 11/20/2023 6:47:12 AM PST by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure..)
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To: ridesthemiles

Horses while on the ranch, then bikes and cars when we went to the city. :)

UK sub... Got to be Lucas. lol


62 posted on 11/20/2023 6:49:36 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: gibsonguy

The main reason I will NEVER own anything made by BMW with four wheels. Their cars are so over engineered they are very expensive to maintain. Same story with anything from Mercedes in the last twenty five years.

BMW used to make great motorcycles in the past. Not sure about them anymore.


63 posted on 11/20/2023 6:49:44 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

I was wondering about enemy action...


64 posted on 11/20/2023 6:53:27 AM PST by Shady (The Force of Liberty must prevail for the sake of our Children and Grandchildren...)
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To: ping jockey
Agree...this excerpt from the article is very confusing:

...when the depth indicators stopped working, with its crew falsely believing it was level when in fact it was diving deeper into the ocean.

I can't see how malfunctioning depth indication would cause confusion over whether the sub was or was not level. This crew, IMO, lost the bubble.

65 posted on 11/20/2023 6:57:34 AM PST by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.- Mencken)
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To: dynachrome

Computerized control systems can do amazing things and quite dreadful things. 140 crew members have quite a story to tell. Let’s hope the event hasn’t scared any of them out of the service.


66 posted on 11/20/2023 6:59:20 AM PST by jimfree (My 21 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than Joe Biden.)
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To: null and void

Yes, sounds like the sub was Hastings’ed.


67 posted on 11/20/2023 7:01:58 AM PST by bgill
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To: Openurmind

“Lucas electrics”

My first thought as well.
Dependability of a different sort.


69 posted on 11/20/2023 7:16:05 AM PST by oldvirginian (My pronouns are Your Royal Majesty and Mr Fancy Pants.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Oh but the adventure of passing 11,000 feet deep........


70 posted on 11/20/2023 7:24:38 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Can you really get disoriented and not know you are descending? I could see this if you are maintaining a level position and descending without tilting the sub down.


There wasn't one guy drinking coffee that wondered why it was trying to pour itself out of the cup?

71 posted on 11/20/2023 7:26:27 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: ping jockey

Rickover would very likely be with the COB on that comment. Way too much redundancy built into these systems to feel otherwise, based on this article...


72 posted on 11/20/2023 7:27:25 AM PST by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.- Mencken)
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To: woodbutcher1963

One of my cousins was absolutely crazy about the British cars, the MG’s and Triumphs.
How crazy about them?
He ended up running a foreign car junkyard from all the cars he had bought to keep his personal rides going. Made a nice living from it so he wasn’t the only lunatic.


73 posted on 11/20/2023 7:28:33 AM PST by oldvirginian (My pronouns are Your Royal Majesty and Mr Fancy Pants.)
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To: MNnice

No ‘pressure in the boat’ before a dive?


74 posted on 11/20/2023 7:31:34 AM PST by null and void (If you support monsters you will die in the cross fire.)
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To: Openurmind
Lucas electrics...

As an old (very old) Britbike owner/rider/racer....I got it even of none of the millenials did.

75 posted on 11/20/2023 7:38:06 AM PST by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: oldvirginian

The MGs were really fun cars to drive. The issue was that they broke down all the time mostly because of bad electrical systems. Hence my comment about the Miata.

Another example of this is the Toyota MR2. It is also a small 2 seat sports car. What was even better was that the engine was in the rear just over in front of the rear axle. Even today the second version 1990s MR2s with the 2L turbo are worth $23-40K depending how many miles on the vehicle.

The problem with all of these cars though you really could not be more than about 5’ 8” to drive most of them. A buddy’s wife had a Miata. With the seat all the way back, I still was cramped and I am only 5’ 10”.


76 posted on 11/20/2023 7:40:45 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: Svartalfiar
LOL...I was thinking of the coffee cup, too.

Nope, the sub was gently wafting its way to the bottom perfectly level. Either that or submariners have all given up coffee.

Always carry one of these just in case your $10 million electronics package goes out.


77 posted on 11/20/2023 7:41:17 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: PIF

I don’t know a thing about submarines, so in true FReeper fashion, here I go with my expert analysis. You’d kind of think on of the mechanics might have a level, but a homemade plumb Bob or even a marble.


78 posted on 11/20/2023 7:41:39 AM PST by cyclotic (It's a great time to live in America. It's like the collapse of the Roman Empire except with wi-fi)
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To: wally_bert

As I recall, the real problem were the twin Stromberg carburetors. Adjusting them was something of a touchy feely art.


79 posted on 11/20/2023 7:46:44 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: woodbutcher1963
Triumph Spitfire and other small British convertible cars are the reason why the Mazda Miata was so popular. The big difference was that the Miata was a reliable car that started and would not leave you stranded 30 miles from home.

I almost bought a Miata about a month ago. I came very, very close. It was a 2023 - kind of a champagne color with a black top. Purred like a kitten when I test drove it. What deterred me was wondering if people could see me on the big freeways in Houston since they’re so small. I’m afraid I might disappear among all of the big trucks.

I have a 2020 Mazda 6 now, which I really like. Who knows, though? I may trade it in for a Miata a few months from now if I’m feeling a little whimsical. It sure is a sweet little car.

80 posted on 11/20/2023 7:50:38 AM PST by Allegra (Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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