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Royal Navy nuclear submarine equipped with Trident missiles 'suffered huge malfunction that sent the vessel into an endless dive - with engineers saving the 140 crew members moments before they faced being crushed by underwater pressure'
Daily Mail ^ | 11-19-23 | EIRIAN JANE PROSSER and Rory Tingle

Posted on 11/20/2023 3:04:49 AM PST by dynachrome

A Royal Navy nuclear submarine equipped with Trident missiles suffered a huge malfunction that sent it into an endless dive before the vessel was righted moments before the crew faced being crushed by underwater pressure, it was claimed today.

The Vanguard class sub had been carrying 140 crew when its depth gauge suddenly failed while on a mission in the Atlantic.

It caused a frantic scrabble with engineers managing to stop the submarine and its nuclear reactor from plunging further just moments before disaster struck.

The deep sea vessel, carrying Trident 2 missiles, was on patrol when the depth indicators stopped working, with its crew falsely believing it was level when in fact it was diving deeper into the ocean.

It was only when engineers at the back of the sub found a second gauge indicating they were headed towards the 'danger zone' that they sounded the alarm.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: nuclear; sabotage; submarine; uk; unitedkingdom
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

They must also have internal gravity as no one noticed the downward slant of the boat.


21 posted on 11/20/2023 4:54:35 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: rlmorel

And or journo exaggeration


22 posted on 11/20/2023 4:54:37 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Exactly right. Critical systems have multiple redundant sensors and logic. “Auctioneers” decide which is the correct measured value based on multiple sensor readings. This is old tech and has always been an area of intense R&D.

I’ve never been in a submarine. Can you really get disoriented and not know you are descending? I could see this if you are maintaining a level position and descending without tilting the sub down. But sinking in a controlled level attitude would be slower than diving toward the bottom, wouldn’t it?

As a mechanical engineer (but not a submariner), this story strikes me as just plain stupid.


23 posted on 11/20/2023 4:55:57 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: dynachrome

I’ve got to tell my brother about this: retired Navy, who used to be in subs.


24 posted on 11/20/2023 5:04:17 AM PST by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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To: bert

Of course. I didn’t consider that the “journalists” they have on military beats often have no idea about the things they report on, so it could be simple misinterpretation on their part.

I mean, if they have shown they don’t understand naval vessels when they call a frigate a “battleship” (which I have seen) how could anyone expect them to deconstruct a technical explanation in order to properly make an understandable news article that is somewhat accurate?

That is possible.


25 posted on 11/20/2023 5:04:48 AM PST by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: dynachrome

Take that, Putin!!!!


26 posted on 11/20/2023 5:04:48 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: Openurmind

Q. Why do the British drink their beer warm?

A. They have Lucas refrigerators.


27 posted on 11/20/2023 5:08:06 AM PST by FarCenter
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To: dynachrome

Good thing someone was paying attention.


28 posted on 11/20/2023 5:08:20 AM PST by OKSooner (Be especially sure to take extra wool socks.)
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To: rlmorel

Which is why I think this explanation is BS. “Found a second gauge” my ass.


Or its a concocted, “believable” story to cover up the real and classified reasons.


29 posted on 11/20/2023 5:11:41 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

Uh... since when?


30 posted on 11/20/2023 5:14:00 AM PST by OKSooner (Be especially sure to take extra wool socks.)
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To: rlmorel

One comment of note. Especially on You Tube, Russian vessels are called battleships.

That does seem ignorant and idiotic but I have concluded that it is a matter of translation where any war ship translates to a battle ship

The lack of connotation between a frigate and a “battleship” is lost in translation


31 posted on 11/20/2023 5:20:13 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: PIF

Agreed. It could be classified, or it could be ass-covering.


32 posted on 11/20/2023 5:23:33 AM PST by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: bert

True...I have seen that.

I have also seen it on more than one occasion in the US media, which makes me roll my eyes. I have also seen them call a B-52 a “fighter plane”, and they make no effort at all to understand rank or unit construction/designation.

I should chalk that up to ignorance, but have always been suspicious that it is willful ignorance!


33 posted on 11/20/2023 5:26:02 AM PST by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: rlmorel

I don’t understand how the air could heat to the surface of the sun before it imploded. I would think that alone would vaporize anybody in it before it did. I would think the worst nightmare would be in a sub with no way to get out as it fills with water like that movie “The Abyss” where they can’t get the door open and the Captain has to watch them drown.


34 posted on 11/20/2023 5:29:53 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free, the USA will never have equal justice under the law)
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To: dynachrome

We had a faulty sensor that indicated that the flap on the snorkel was closed when in fact it was stuck open. This resulted in flooding when we dove as water poured into the upper level. Surface! Surface! Surface!


35 posted on 11/20/2023 5:31:12 AM PST by MNnice
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To: dynachrome
It caused a frantic scrabble

Yeah, I can just envision it...

CREWMAN #1: "Irregardless" is not a word!! CREWMAN #2: Yes it is! It's used all the time!!! CREWMAN #1: NO!! You're thinking of "irrespective"!!!! I already let you have 21 points for "woke"!!!! CREWMAN #2: Well you should have because "woke" is a real word!!!! CREWMAN #1: NO IT'S NOT! IT'S SLANG!! CREWMAN #2: WHERE'S MY DICTIONARY? AGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! CREWMAN #1: THAT'S MY DICTIONARY!!! AAAAAAGHGHGHGHGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

36 posted on 11/20/2023 5:45:15 AM PST by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: FarCenter

Lol... Owned a several British bikes and cars, so I’m hip to it.


37 posted on 11/20/2023 5:45:56 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: dynachrome

Very odd. There must be more to the story, but we’ll never get the details (classified).


38 posted on 11/20/2023 5:46:35 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: dynachrome

Good thing that the nukes were paying attention. I wonder why this is a headline? UK MOD needs ‘moar money’ no doubt.


39 posted on 11/20/2023 5:48:42 AM PST by jdt1138 (Where ever you go, there you are.)
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To: dynachrome
Something here isn't right. I smell anti-nuke sensationalism in this reporting. This conveniently follows on the coat tails of the recently hyped Titan submersible implosion.

How could a competent and certified crew "discover" another depth gauge in a rear compartment? Submariners are crosstrained in multiple qualifications. A large chunk of everyone on the boat knows every corner, gauge and valve.

In this case there is probably less to the story.

40 posted on 11/20/2023 5:50:07 AM PST by pfflier
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