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Air freight demand has cooled so much, FedEx is telling its pilots to fly for American Airlines instead
https://www.dallasnews.com/ ^ | By Bloomberg Wire

Posted on 11/07/2023 6:20:08 PM PST by RomanSoldier19

Demand for air freight was a bright spot in the aviation industry during the COVID-19 pandemic amid shipping disruptions and passenger travel whittling down to next to nothing — but the tide has turned.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aviaton; doom; fedex; freight; shipping; supply
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1 posted on 11/07/2023 6:20:08 PM PST by RomanSoldier19
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To: RomanSoldier19

It could woro out fine if they don’t need a different class of pilots license.

Lots of airlines need pilots thanks to the covax.


2 posted on 11/07/2023 6:21:22 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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I don’t think so. You just have to be checked out on the type of aircraft you are flying.


3 posted on 11/07/2023 6:27:05 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants ( "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."- Mark Twain)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

That would be good then. I thought they may have different ones for freight vs passengers.


4 posted on 11/07/2023 6:36:44 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Another victim of the Biden economy.


5 posted on 11/07/2023 6:38:49 PM PST by Parley Baer (GO )
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To: RomanSoldier19

It’s all over unless the Feds spool up another round of largesse.


6 posted on 11/07/2023 6:43:27 PM PST by jean michael
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To: jean michael

Obama is smiling.


7 posted on 11/07/2023 6:45:41 PM PST by gathersnomoss (End This Attack On Justice.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

I had some genius here on FR telling me how air freight was going to supplant ALL other shipping. I asked how air could possibly compete with rail at 300 ton-miles per gallon, and was told that speed meant more than efficiency!

Some folks are so stupid you wish you could slap their stupidity out of them. Even if you couldn’t, it would still be fun to try...


8 posted on 11/07/2023 7:02:25 PM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn)
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To: RomanSoldier19

And airlines think this is not coming their way? $250k signing bonus? Soon they will wish they had that back. Does anyone think these things through or are they just all reaction in the current minute?


9 posted on 11/07/2023 7:41:03 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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To: RomanSoldier19
The biggest factor in the decline of air freight is the enormous cost of putting cargo on an airplane.

Companies like FedEx and UPS have started to put as much of their cargo as possible on trucks instead of aircraft. More and more of their customers are opting for slower shipping instead of paying a premium for overnight delivery.

10 posted on 11/07/2023 7:45:12 PM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: Don W

I would have asked the dope how many flights it would take to move the equivalent of a 7,000+ foot long unit train of coal or grain two thousand miles across the U.S.


11 posted on 11/07/2023 7:47:58 PM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

My company shipped several hundred times between early 2022 and mid 2023.

Of the several hundred times less than a dozen or so were shipped by air due to the absurd pricing. Many times freight quotes (air or truck) were more than what an item cost.

FedEX is not managed well in 2023. I have an account with them but try hard not to use it because of differences between quotes and what you see on your account statement.


12 posted on 11/07/2023 8:08:45 PM PST by Cen-Tejas
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everyone is missing the point

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13 posted on 11/07/2023 8:26:17 PM PST by RomanSoldier19 (Res ad Triarios venit;“We are your ghosts, in this game played by monkeys, organized by lunatics” )
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To: Cen-Tejas
...less than a dozen or so were shipped by air due to the absurd pricing. Many times freight quotes (air or truck) were more than what an item cost.

I've witnessed the entire profit margin for a chain-wide seasonal assortment of 30 or so items disappear due to the air freight charges for just one item in the assortment.

The buying and merchandising teams just couldn't grasp the difference in cost between air freight and cargo containers. They'd fight us when we insisted all purchase orders had to be written with enough lead time to get the lowest out-of-season rates we could find.

There are very few items that have a high enough profit margin or require such fast shipping, that make air freight a feasible option.

14 posted on 11/07/2023 8:45:08 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: Cen-Tejas
FedEX is not managed well in 2023.

I'm surprised when I deal with FedEx because they appear to have no quality control nor urgency to fix gaps in their processes.

I suspect they contract out a lot of the end shipments and incentivize the contractors to game the metrics used for compensation.

I can't think how long it's been since I've gotten a message that an item was delivered and I didn't have it show up until three days later after contacting the shipper and having them reach out to FedEx to find out where it was.

This is for orders from decent sized companies, to me on a main line, not out in a rural area. Worse, I normally redirect the shipments to the local retailer that has a FedEx pickup arrangement and FedEx still can't get it right.

It reminds me of the stories I'd hear about how General Motors operated back in the 1970s.

15 posted on 11/07/2023 8:59:56 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: Don W
I had some genius here on FR telling me how air freight was going to supplant ALL other shipping. I asked how air could possibly compete with rail at 300 ton-miles per gallon, and was told that speed meant more than efficiency!

It wasn't just speed the snake oil salesmen were hawking. I suffered through countless presentations by charlatans promoting the future being cargo blimps. I had several clowns in the Air Force insisting it was coming and was going to revolutionize freight movement. They had zero grasp of cost, limited clientele, and how few items would ship better by blimp than by any other means. Thankfully the pitches seem to have peaked between 2010 and 2015.

Here's one from 2014:

https://www.supplychain247.com/article/airshipping_perhaps_the_logistics_of_freight_by_blimp_arent_just_hot_air

Lockheed Martin even made one:

https://www.ttnews.com/articles/lockheed-martin-unveils-cargo-moving-blimp

I think most of the idiots I dealt with switched to pushing electric cars and windmills. Some people just need the adrenaline of chasing fantasies.

16 posted on 11/07/2023 9:14:51 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: RomanSoldier19

FedEx is in contract negotiations with the pilot union. This is a negotiation tactic by the company, none of their pilots would ever accept this offer to fly for a commuter. Any of them could get hired by American, Delta, or United tomorrow.


17 posted on 11/07/2023 9:32:28 PM PST by GaryCrow
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To: RomanSoldier19

The falloff in shipping demand seems due to relative declines in the shipment of finished goods. The bulk raw material shipping cost measure known as the Baltic Exchange Dry Index has been up recently, which suggests that economic fundamentals remain strong, at least for the shipment of raw materials.


18 posted on 11/07/2023 11:15:00 PM PST by Rockingham (`)
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To: Don W
Heck I had one tell me how everything was going to be delivered by drones.

I would like to see the drone that would deliver my Chewy order.

19 posted on 11/07/2023 11:22:05 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Keep America Beautiful by keeping Canadian Trash Out. Deport Jennifer Granholm!)
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To: Don W

I bought a elliptical machine that weighs 69lbs. If I choose to return it Amazon says it will cost $6.99 for pickup by them.
How can they freight a bulky box of 69lbs for just $6.99?

Refund summary
Refund subtotal
$273.74
Shipping (Amazon Pickup)
-$6.99
Total estimated refund
$266.75


20 posted on 11/08/2023 12:44:35 AM PST by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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