Posted on 09/19/2023 3:22:16 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
“I lie? I lied when I said Trump was once pro-choice?”
Wow!!!
No, you lied when you said Trump was no longer pro-life.
whereas President Trump delivered the best results concerning abortion and Pro Life EVER.
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Again, as I repeatedly said, I agree.
But that’s all in the past. You or any other Angry Trumper cannot put a positive spin on... “He additionally pointed out that Gov. DeSantis’s, R-Fla., decision to sign a six-week ban on abortion was a “terrible mistake,” referring to the political ramifications on a national scale.”
What BS! Trump was historically pro abortion, his only pro-life move was three Supreme Court justices. He’s been criticizing DeSantis about his six week band in Florida, several months ago Trump was talking about no limitations, leaving it even to partial birth abortion. His recent statements are more of the same, he is reverting back to his life held positions. What’s priceless is seeing Trump supporters, normally conservatives, try to twist this around, so they can continue supporting pro abortion Trump.
No, you lied when you said Trump was no longer pro-life.
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Sorry, but my pro-life candidates do not think Florida made a “terrible mistake” when they passed the best anti-Abortion laws in the USA.
Sorry, but my pro-life candidates do not argue for States Rights one minute then bitterly complain about the “terrible mistake” a state made in choosing a pro-life agenda the next.
Unilateralism isn’t going to get you very far.
In negotiations, sometimes both sides have to feel a little pain.
Besides, the USSC negates his opinion. Federally, the givernment is out of this issue...
Don’t let the door hit you.
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Since I'm sitting here laughing about this nonsense, and at you specifically, I'm thinking you need to brush up on your adjectives.
And I agree with him on that point. Today it's a bad idea. Many years from now, it will obviously be a good idea.
You don't want to acknowledge reality. Reality is, women will not switch their feelings or beliefs overnight, nor their desires. I've pointed out for many decades that the fight to get abortion out of America will take a long time with a lot of small steps.
Outside of outright war and forcing your beliefs upon Americans, getting the wiring corrected on such a deeply felt issue that has been thoroughly impressed upon our citizens minds for more than 4 generations is not something that will instantly be accomplished and will take time, along with patience and resolve, to get the results that you irrationally insist must happen immediately.
Look at how the left has devastated our country with these exact same tactics. They've been relentless and focused, regardless of the fact that they're in the wrong.
Sorry, Florida still has only a 15 week ban.
If DeSantis was pro life, he would have held out for an immediate 6 week ban or even zero weeks, right?
So even DeSantis is unsure about 15 weeks.
Murder requires death of a individual living person.
Since a fetus less than 12 weeks has never survived outside of womb, by law it is not an individual. A fetus which can survive on its own is indeed an individual living entity.
Abortion is the murder of an unborn child.
Now explain to us all how someone who signs a bill consenting to the murder of a child up to six weeks is pro-life. Should that person take bows for restricting it to six weeks over a person who wants to restrict it for five months, etc.
Trump got Roe v Wade overturned because he got like he promised, an accomplishment much greater than your god DeSantis accomplished by merely signing legislation passed by a Repubican legislature.
Abortion should be turned over to the states since the president now doesn’t really have a part anymore, unless a bill is passed by Congress concerning abortion, and that will not happen.
Trump takes the same position on abortion that Reagan did — life of the mother, incest, rape. Most of those are actually rare occurrences.
We do have to win elections, and we have to deal with people who don’t believe like we do if we are to save the nation. We at this time will not be able to stop all abortions, but we can go down to defeat if we use our faith to draw a hard line that other people don’t have the faith for.
I’m called much worse here in California for not backing a “Woman’s right” to slaughter her unborn child.
Being realistic is problematic on FR nowadays it seems.
‘Trump was historically pro abortion...’
you should not say things like that about Him on this forum...
DeSantis did not ban or unban anything. He simply signed into law what the Florida legislature sent up.
That was not my problem, the use of the term bible thumper was.
I like Trump unfolded for Trump, but he’s not God. You go ahead and worship your god. I got my own.
Where are DeSantis' comments that he wanted an immediate total ban, but that this was the best that he could get?
I still can’t figure out how 6 week ban is pro life..
It snuffs out life from conception to 5 weeks..
So, there’s some life that isn’t equal with some Pro Lifers too..
Compromise with the culture of death is still compromise with death..
Right?
So this is your rationale for Trump calling Florida's pro-life bill terrible? I can only imagine how pissed off Trump would have been if DeSantis had signed a zero week ban.
The question is why? Why did Trump have to open his fat mouth and step into the minefield in the first place? As you said "the president now doesn’t really have a part anymore", so why did Trump go there?
I'll tell you why. Because DeSantis still lives rent free in Trump's head. Anything good that DeSantis has done has to be opposed by Trump.
This strong pro-life policy is but one example. And why did Trump side with Disney and their pro groomer policies? Because DeSantis made many brownie points by winning the culture war against Disney.
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