Wrong! New batteries are showing better performance.
Posted on 09/18/2023 8:42:25 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
There is a theoretical, magic tipping point for adoption of electric vehicles. Once somewhere between 5 and 10 percent of new car sales are all-electric, some researchers say, huge numbers of drivers will follow. They predict that electric car sales will then soar — to 25 percent, 50 percent and eventually to close to 80 percent of new sales.
Early adopters who love shiny new technologies will be replaced by mainstream consumers just looking for a good deal.
Last year, the United States finally passed that elusive mark — 5 percent of all new cars sold in the fourth quarter were fully electric. And earlier this year, all-electric vehicles made up about 7 percent of new car sales.
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“ New homes are already being built with charging stations, too, and it will soon be a requirement.”
That’s called force.
Force of law.
Wow. Thanks for a really detailed answer
Go to your local building department and check the list of building codes that apply to your home. It’s hardly some new Draconian rule.
Yeah, we get it. You’re Green Borg. You like the new order.
“The actual cost of ownership of an EV is pretty insane, considering battery life. “
Tesla batteries are designed to go over 300k miles. That is more than 20 years for the average driver.
And tech is still improving.
What is the total number of cars in Norway, and what is the number of new cars bought in 2022 or 2023? Absolute numbers, not percentages.
And at the end of 20 years you will be measuring your range in feet instead of miles. Not to mention that the no EV owner will ever keep one that long.
And if they did, they would have a five figure battery replacement bill.
Compared to a low mileage ICE engine that can be had from a junkyard for $300.
Well, since you’ve descended to name calling, I win. Thanks for helping me make my point.
Wrong! New batteries are showing better performance.
Ok Ah Q.
The same people generating this sort of data are also saying you will never see those kinds of miles on the odometer of your EV. More realistically you are talking about 70% capacity at 1000 cycles, making your theoretical range drop from 250 to 175, but you need to take another big hit because you shouldn’t go under 20% charge and your fast charge shouldn’t be taken past 80%.
So your actual practical range is more like 100 miles. Plus there is no guarantee that every battery will follow this curve, which is why plenty of people are finding they need a $20k battery pack far earlier than the expected lifetime.
Sure, for someone with lots of disposable income and purely short range driving needs, EVs are an option. But for the average person who needs to do things like visit family a few hundred miles away, tow an RV, or just regularly drive even slightly extended ranges and need to budget how much they spend on transportation, EVs are a disaster.
EV fanboys like you mislead these people with your fantasies.
Our Electric COOP has a solar array outside that generates approximately 10KW. The building they are in uses 100KW on a monthly basis. The array is there to help customers interested in solar to make the proper decisions with full knowledge of the pros and cons of solar at 44 degrees North Latitude.
I don’t remember if you are Northern or Southern AL, but your latitude is much more beneficial than 44 north for what you have done. Thanks again for telling your story.
I’m in north central Alabama, latitude similar to Birmingham.
Beginning in January, all new large trucks purchased by shipping companies and owner-operators in California, must be EV....
Total number of cars in Norway (2020): 5,685,785
from
https://www.statista.com/statistics/828602/number-of-registered-vehicles-in-norway-by-type/
Total number of new cars bought in 2022: 174,315
from
https://www.statista.com/statistics/731659/number-of-sold-passenger-cars-in-norway/#:~:text=As%20of%202022%2C%20sales%20volumes,the%20most%20sold%20car%20models.
Electric new cars bought in 2022: 138,232
This does show that it is not “always be charging” as stated in post #2.
Of course, it is incorrect to directly extrapolate from Norway (population 5 million, 150K sq miles) to the USA (pop 332 million, 4,000L sq miles), but one can see that electric cars have a purpose and can function well enough.
As I said above, they aren’t feasible for ALL American conditions, but for some, they do make sense imho
Well said.
Not quite -- The California Air Resources Board, also called CARB, has required drayage fleets — the types of trucking companies that operate in ports — to only buy zero-emissions trucks starting Jan. 1, 2024. By 2035, drayage fleets must be entirely zero emission
Drayage trucks are generally diesel-fueled, heavy-duty (Class 8) trucks that transport containers and bulk freight between the port and intermodal rail facilities, distribution centers, and other near-port locations.
Electricity rates will skyrocket when there’s no other option. And taxes.
Thanks, I later looked up the numbers as well. With plentiful hydro-electricity and only a few larger population centers, I’ll agree that EVs can well be used as city run-abouts there (or elsewhere, of course).
I doubt many will do Oslo to Hammerfest runs in the middle of winter.
For some, it will take the actual experience of owning one of these mistakes until they actually catch on.
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