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Trump says Ukraine could have avoided conflict
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Posted on 09/18/2023 12:00:17 PM PDT by Rattlesnake_Snook

Ukraine could have avoided hundreds of thousands of deaths and lost less land if it had reached a peace deal with Russia before the conflict began last February, former US President Donald Trump told NBC News in an interview aired on Sunday.

The loss of Ukrainian territory to Russia is “something that could have been negotiated,” Trump told NBC host Kristen Welker, adding that “a lot of people expected” Kiev to abandon its claims to “Crimea and other parts of the country” in exchange for peace.

“So they could have made a deal where there’s less territory [lost] than Russia has already taken,” Trump continued. “They could have made a deal where nobody was killed…they would have had a Ukrainian country. Now nobody even knows if Ukraine is going to be totally taken over.”

By “other parts of the country,” Trump was likely referring to the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics, whose sovereignty Russian President Vladimir Putin recognized three days before Russia’s military operation in Ukraine began. Following referendums last September, both regions have now joined the Russian Federation, along with the formerly Ukrainian territories of Kherson and Zaporozhye. Crimea voted to rejoin Russia in 2014.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine; War
KEYWORDS: angryneoconsbelow; angryputinfannyboys; appeasementwontwork; dreamer; fakenews; naive; neoconsvotedbiden; notourproblem; notourwar; outofcontext; rossiyasegodnya; russiatoday
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1 posted on 09/18/2023 12:00:17 PM PDT by Rattlesnake_Snook
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

Come on Trump, how is Joe supposed to get his 10% without USA pumping much more money to Zelensky than we pay to Israel every year?


2 posted on 09/18/2023 12:02:28 PM PDT by entropy12 (Career politicians like Desantis build wealth. Trumpcrificed his wealth to serve people. GO TRUMP)
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

appeasement doesn’t work ... thought he was smarter than this

if this is Trump’s foreign policy, then he just handed the Dems & their Big Media pals a club they will use to beat him


3 posted on 09/18/2023 12:02:37 PM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: canuck_conservative

You are right, appeasement does not work, which is why Trump is not appeasing you globohomo warmongers


4 posted on 09/18/2023 12:04:27 PM PDT by Rattlesnake_Snook
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To: entropy12

Right On.


5 posted on 09/18/2023 12:04:49 PM PDT by dblshot
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook
peace. “So they could have made a deal where there’s less territory [lost] than Russia has already taken,” Trump continued. “They could have made a deal where nobody was killed…they would have had a Ukrainian country….”

I wholeheartedly agree.

All of those shattered lives and destroyed infrastructure never had to happen.

6 posted on 09/18/2023 12:05:32 PM PDT by Allegra (Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

just appeasing the Russian dictator

is Trump really that dumb??


7 posted on 09/18/2023 12:06:01 PM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

And ukraine would’ve been better off if they had avoided it.


8 posted on 09/18/2023 12:08:04 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: canuck_conservative

Good for Trump for not appeasing the WEF Soros-Hillary Clinton-Biden family pedo globalist neocon & neonazi warmongers


9 posted on 09/18/2023 12:08:16 PM PDT by Rattlesnake_Snook
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

He is absolutely right. A gentleman’s agreement and intelligent compromise could have been reached without either side losing face or showing weakness.

If we had just butted out to let them explore the option...


10 posted on 09/18/2023 12:08:17 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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He wasn’t talking about appeasement…


11 posted on 09/18/2023 12:08:39 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: canuck_conservative

Spending money we don’t have to fight UNNECESSARY foreign wars and padding the bloated national debt even more is smart?

Within 10 years, net interest costs on the national debt alone will exceed federal expenditures for Medicaid PLUS defense; and, over the next 30 years, these interest payments will be the biggest line item in the federal budget.


12 posted on 09/18/2023 12:10:06 PM PDT by entropy12 (Career politicians like Desantis build wealth. Trumpcrificed his wealth to serve people. GO TRUMP)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

yes he was

and there would be no permanent peace, we all know that Russia will just be attacking again in a few years ...

Hitler’s strategy, copied

APPEASEMENT NEVER WORKS, BECAUSE THE MONSTER ALWAYS WANTS MORE

duh


13 posted on 09/18/2023 12:11:06 PM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: entropy12

Biden was OK with a “minor incursion”. Just something to remember about the origins of this mess.


14 posted on 09/18/2023 12:11:22 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“And ukraine would’ve been better off if they had avoided it.”

>WE< would have been better off if they had avoided it.


15 posted on 09/18/2023 12:11:42 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

Probably a lot of wars could have been avoided. Iraq war was started because Bush team insisted Iraq had “weapons of mass destruction.” They mean some barrels of poisonous gas, not nukes, which in any case they were wrong.

Seems everyone was ok with Bush being 100% wrong and sending thousands of Americans to their death, not to mention Iraqi lives.


16 posted on 09/18/2023 12:13:05 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: Rattlesnake_Snook

Crimea would have been Russian but Ukraine would have retained its coast and ports. The Donbas would have stayed within Ukraine but with guarantees of freedom of language and culture by its inhabitants, plus political representation.
And the nationalist war on them would have to STOP.

Zaporozhye and Kherson would not have held separation referendums if their cultural diversity was peacefully respected.

Ukraine would stay neutral and protected, but not a member of NATO, no NATO bases.

Basically this is what the comedian campaigned on, as a “ peace candidate”


17 posted on 09/18/2023 12:13:18 PM PDT by silverleaf (Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: canuck_conservative

Who are you going to vote for in the coming elections?


18 posted on 09/18/2023 12:13:26 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: canuck_conservative

“appeasement doesn’t work ... thought he was smarter than this

if this is Trump’s foreign policy, then he just handed the Dems & their Big Media pals a club they will use to beat him”

I’m sure he’ll be heartbroken when he learns he lost your vote.


19 posted on 09/18/2023 12:14:11 PM PDT by rxh4n1
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Yep, should have at least tried to have a peaceful negotiation.


20 posted on 09/18/2023 12:14:38 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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