Posted on 08/30/2023 5:33:38 AM PDT by Cronos
... “In the cold war, India could walk a middle path because it had no major disputes with either the US or the Soviet Union, and play each other off against each other,Today it can’t do that with the US and China.”
Officials and analysts say the nascent US-India strategic alignment is being driven by commercial and defence imperatives related to Beijing. ... India has for years been steadily moving closer to the US and other western countries on arms purchases and defence ties, and officials say the momentum is growing.
“We were strangers in defence co-operation at the turn of the century,” Modi said in Thursday’s address. “Now, the United States has become one of our most important defence partners.”
... One factor focusing Indian policymakers’ minds is friction along their country’s nearly 3,500km long border with China.
In 2020 India suffered casualties during clashes in and around the Galwan valley in eastern Ladakh, when at least 24 troops, mostly Indians, were killed. Chinese forces have now pushed India out of at least two areas where they formerly patrolled.
Another clash between Indian and Chinese troops in India’s far north-eastern state of Arunachal Pradesh in December resulted in injuries on both sides. In talks with China aimed at defusing the stand-off, India has made it clear it will not resume normal relations until the status quo at the border is restored.
India has also pushed back against Chinese tech.
Today India does more joint military exercises with the US than with any other country. In 2022 it undertook a high-altitude exercise with US troops in its northern Uttarakhand state near the border, which China protested. In 2021 the two sides did a similar joint exercise in Alaska.
(Excerpt) Read more at ft.com ...
Modi and Xi Speak at BRICS Summit, Ask Officials to Resolve Border Dispute Quickly
Then it’s gone up significantly since I checked and from when I was citing (1.2 billion world Muslims). A worse problem, IMO.
I don’t think it is dead - it never was alive.
I see it as what it is - an acronym created by Goldman Sachs to sell their international fund.
the four/five countries have little to nothing in common culturally, geopolitically or economically.
It’s as if we created a new coalition called the M&M&M for Mexico, Malaysia and Montenegro —> all with similar GDP per capita (nominal)./
What total Western disinfo BS. I’ve seen this same lying narrative reflected in a few places this morning. This must have been the blue shovel special over at the media masters’ feeding trough this morning. This whole idiotic narrative is debunked by looking at India’s actions at the BRIChinaS summit last week. The BRIChinaS successes last week is precisely why the disinfo outlets in the West are having their operatives trafficking this nonsense today, deflection. Nice try.
I don’t think it would have held together in the long run. But I never thought about that it was quick profiteering by the bankers. You could be right on that as well.
There was no formal move made by either state to “resolve the border dispute”.
No moves are being made to stop the Indian and Chinese soldiers fighting to prevent the Chinese invading Indian territory
The term BRIC was originally developed in the context of foreign investment strategies. It was introduced in the 2001 publication, Building Better Global Economic BRICs by then-chairman of Goldman Sachs Asset Management, Jim O’Neill
https://www.goldmansachs.com/intelligence/archive/building-better.html
The foreign ministers of the initial four BRIC General states (Brazil, Russia, India, and China) met in New York City in September 2006 at the margins of the General Debate of the UN Assembly, beginning a series of high-level meetings.
Goldman Sachs also created “frontier markets” mutual fund and another one whose name escapes me (MEERKAT or something) - which did contain Mexico.
I was with JP Morgan at the time and the investments in the Indian stock market (BSE) were wowzer = basic ETFs were giving 45% per annum returns and you could double your money in a year if you read a bit.
It crashed in 2008 Feb - not depression level, but it still crashed.
But while it was rising, it was a great marketing ploy for the Investment bankers
It’s not “western” — read Indian papers such as thehindu.com or thestandard - or read the vernacular press using google translate.
These are extremely anti-China.
India is a Democracy.
They speak English. Muslims are a minority.
They want to form an alliance to protect themselves from their BIGGEST THREAT CHINA.
China(not Russia) is our biggest threat. IF we had an alliance with India, we could control the majority of the oceans in the world. Between the US navy, Japanese Navy, Indian Navy, Australian, Taiwanese and British Navy we could keep China in check.
China needs petroleum. That petroleum from the gulf has to pass through the Indian Ocean to get to China. India could cripple the Chinese economy if they cut off that oil supply.
India has bought lots of military equipment from Russia. We could sell them that same equipment. Just like we are now selling submarines to Australia.
India has had the best economy in the world in the last ten years with the exception of Vietnam. Another country that wants to form an alliance to protect itself from China.
Expanding economies need to buy things. Not just rice and wheat. India is projected to grow while our and European economies stagnate.
Every country in Asia is concerned about China seizing their territory and resources. They(like the Russians)are not good neighbors. They have seen what they did to Tibet. What they did to Hong Kong. What they want to do to Taiwan.
They are in an open border war with China already.
Are far as Muslims go, Malaysia is the largest population of Muslims in the world. We do not have any real issues with them.
Yup—the Deep State hates “diversity” when they don’t control the meeting.
he has a better rapport with American Presidents (and fake Presidents like Biden)
They’re not too keen on Christians either.
India interests currently own or run most of America’s Fortune 500. Of course they need America to succeed, but on their terms and to their benefit. I don’t think our current bureaucratic cabal even sees this coming. It could well be just the spark our nation needs to be free and productive again.
You have a point, but India’s Muslims are (mostly) well-integrated into Indian society and reasonably well-behaved. If nothing else, they are descended from those who chose to stay instead of decamping for the new Muslim state of Pakistan. As it is, the developing US-India alignment is driven by China’s menace to India, so Indian Muslims have reason to be well-disposed toward the US — for now at least.
Please check your sources.
Trump International has luxury hotels world wide.
There has been no disaster except in the minds of isolationists who have no knowledge of American traders who sell their products everywhere
I am talking about importing goods and offshoring production. Learn how to read.
Believe that and I’ll sell you the Brooklyn Bridge.
“In 2020 India suffered casualties during clashes in and around the Galwan valley in eastern Ladakh, when at least 24 troops, mostly Indians, were killed. Chinese forces have now pushed India out of at least two areas where they formerly patrolled.”
In fact, what happened is the exact opposite of what’s claimed here, after Gurkhas in the Indian army beat the crap out of a ChiComm company of boots. The ChiComms censored Chinese mothers who complained bitterly on Chinese social media over seeing their sons slaughtered for no reason.
That the Financial Times would write a fake news story should surprise nobody. The leftist media loves Winnie the Poo.
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