Posted on 08/14/2023 9:11:43 AM PDT by Signalman
The state of California, which has struggled to reconcile its aggressive "green energy" agenda against its unreliable and blackout-prone power grid, may have an admittedly "unconventional" solution thanks to a proposal from Pacific Gas and Electric Company (PG&E): Using electric cars to charge the power grid.
PG&E, which provides power for around 16 million California residents, sees "great potential" for EVs to act as power grid backup generators. "The grid needs those electric vehicles. We need to make it available, and it can be a huge resource," he added, per The Orange County Register.
Just the News contacted PG&E for more details. A spokesman responded by lauding the supposed benefits of "bidirectional charging."
"PG&E believes in a future where everyone is driving an electric vehicle (EV) and where that EV serves as a backup power option at home and more broadly as a resource for the grid," the statement to Just the News read. Not only is this a huge advancement for electric reliability and climate resiliency, it’s yet another advantage of clean-powered EVs, which are so important in our collective battle against climate change."
The company also said tapping electric cars eliminates "the need for non-renewable resources" like fossil fuels.
The state is widely regarded as the most green energy-driven state, but it is also infamous for its rolling blackouts. In August 2020, ABC reported that hundreds of thousands of Californians briefly lost power in rolling blackouts. Many times, the state uses a diesel generator to supplement the grid during peak energy usage.
Nonetheless, PG&E’s 2030 Climate Strategy Report has a goal for the grid "to quickly and safely power at least 3 million EVs— or about 12,000 GWh of EV-related electric load." Two million of those EVs are being sought for "vehicle-grid integration (VGI) applications, allowing EVs to be a cornerstone of both electric reliability and climate resilience for PG&E customers broadly."
According to the Pacific Research Institute, California isn’t able to generate enough electricity to meet its pending EV mandate. 12,000 GWh is nearly 18% of its total renewable electricity generated in 2021.
California Governor Gavin Newsom has openly referred to his state’s power grid as having a reliability "issue" that "has to be addressed." Even though it has an abundance of oil, it still imports more electricity from outside the state than any other state in the nation because of its green agenda pledge. Data culled from the U.S. Department of Energy shows that California led the nation in power outages last year, with 142 major events.
Because the state has notoriously high energy costs—with some reportedly paying triple the providing cost—three utility companies have proposed charging residents based on income rather than energy consumption.
EV’s as backup generators because real generators have been outlawed. So the EV’s can power the grid until they die or explode, then they get recharged by electricity from the grid, which gets its power from fossil fuels. Welcome to California, which leads the nation...somewhere.
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packagingguy wrote: ““Experts” and “authorities” in California are working on legislation to repeal the first law of thermodynamics.”
An engineering professor told my class:
-that the first law of thermodynamics can be summarized as: “You can’t get something for nothing.”
-He summarized the second law as: “You can’t even get that much.”
You buy power from the grid at retail price. The grid takes it back. You think the grid is in the business of buying power at retail? Not a chance.
The stupid. It burns.
Is this like a Tesla pulling a diesel generator on a trailer to recharge itself?
Finally, a perpetual motion machine.
Where do these idiots come from?
What Happens When a Rivian EV Runs Out of Battery Charge?
Motortrend | Jul 28, 2023 | By Scott Evans
Pathetic.
After a significant number of charge cycles, A lithium batteries maximum charge capacity will decrease. Most electric vehicle batteries have an estimated 1500 to 2000 charge cycles. So does this cut the life of the battery in half?
One nuclear power plant would do a better job.
Is this a joke?
It’s what CA users call it.
Exactly! Except the newer EV's now have a higher estimated charge cycles. But your point is still valid. The EV forums are full of tips of how high to charge and how low to let it get discharged for normal use. But many of those same folks think this CA program is good. It's doublethink.
Can you say "Merry-Go-Round" ride?
At first I thought this article was from the Onion or the Babylon Bee. Please tell me that this is another satire site because nobody can be that stupid!
Okay, just stop with the facts and the science. All that matters are feelings and believing, just really believing, that you are a good and caring person by wearing a mask, or letting PG&E hijack your EV.
Next in line - bidirectional marriage.
Great idea. Works with multiplying negative numbers in algebra. These folks are genius!
This makes no sense. Charge your EV battery, so you can provide CA electric power? Do you get a refund for the cost of charging the battery? Is the power grid going to be able to charge all the EV batteries? Do you get to work from home, if you’re EV is hooked up to state power grid?
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