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Ohio Issue 1 fails: Big cities, suburban and many rural counties voted down issue
Columbus Dispatch ^ | August 8, 2023 | Haley BeMiller

Posted on 08/08/2023 5:57:36 PM PDT by Coronal

Issue 1 was projected to fail on Tuesday, according to Decision Desk HQ, dealing a blow to Ohio Republicans who wanted to hamstring a November ballot question on abortion rights.

Decision Desk HQ, an election results reporting agency providing results and race calls for the USA TODAY Network Ohio, called the race around 8:09 p.m. With about 28% of the vote counted, no vote was leading 68% to 32%.

Tuesday’s election was the culmination of a months-long fight that began last year, when Secretary of State Frank LaRose and Rep. Brian Stewart, R-Ashville, first introduced a plan to tighten the rules for constitutional amendments. The debate played out in the halls of the Ohio Statehouse, on the campaign trail and even in the courtroom as opponents tried to stop GOP lawmakers in their tracks.

Proponents of the measure said they want to keep controversial policies out of the constitution and reserve it for the state's fundamental rights and values. Critics argued the ballot measure was a power grab that would hamstring the rights of citizens to place an issue on the ballot.

Ohioans appeared to buy the message opponents were selling.

(Excerpt) Read more at dispatch.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: abortion; neverconserativeglee; neverconservative; ohio; vote
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Since trump, democrats have been highly motivated to vote. They do the work in registering and getting people to the polls. Republicans rely on personal responsibility. Well this is the result.


41 posted on 08/08/2023 6:44:10 PM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: newfreep

It was almost a 70 percent win. This was a monster win for the democrats. No need to cheat when republicans voted no a lot too.


42 posted on 08/08/2023 6:45:09 PM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: bigdaddy45

Yes, and I helped them by voting HELL NO. Leftist Uniparty republicans rule this state. They fight conservatives more than the democrats. The Tea party was utterly destroyed in my county. Rino infiltrator trash co-opted it.

The head of the Ohio chamber of commerce is Steve Stivers who carried the ball on h1-b’s while he was in the congress. 175,000 illegal aliens in June and another 165k in July, no e-verify in this state though.

Dolan, another senate candidate voted for gun control. Red Flag has been implemented in our state without using the words “red flag” and all ready being implemented. A bitch in charge of future implementation in the very near future commented in the local paper that the perception was if you had more than 5 drinks in a week there was a problem. You need more... Property evaluations jumping 40 plus percent for single family and 110% for farmers.

They certainly want to stop we the citizens from any pushback.


43 posted on 08/08/2023 6:45:22 PM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could fight - Romeo company)
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To: Coronal

Many Americans have become rotten to the core, just like the ones they elect to office, one in the same.


44 posted on 08/08/2023 6:46:39 PM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: Coronal

Look at the county results, rural and urban America are two different worlds.


45 posted on 08/08/2023 6:46:40 PM PDT by Round Earther
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To: devane617

Getting? democrats are the party of war, murdering babies, imprisoning political rivals and so much more.

They are the primary enemy, not some far off nation state.


46 posted on 08/08/2023 6:46:53 PM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: joma89

Your tagline. It’s time for team Trump to hit gun shops and shows and Chirches to Ballot Harvest. He isb getting it in place.


47 posted on 08/08/2023 6:49:54 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AN GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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To: napscoordinator

It will be interesting to hear exit polls and surveys, as to why so many Republicans voted no.

This issue has been portrayed as a proxy vote on the abortion issue, but was it really? Is it possible many Republicans really didn’t want to make it more difficult to amend the constitution, which is what this vote was about, strictly speaking?


48 posted on 08/08/2023 6:50:29 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Honestly? Because the men that father those babies want nothing to do with them.


49 posted on 08/08/2023 6:50:58 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Alberta's Child

I’m sure many have given up voting as a waste of time after what we have seen and been told we didn’t see.


50 posted on 08/08/2023 6:51:24 PM PDT by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

True. I thought it was dumb to begin with. It works against both sides. Say republicans want to ban gender mutilation for under 18 and want it in the state constitution. They’d make it difficult to get the signatures for the ballot and then need 60 percent approval. Republicans didn’t think this through at all.


51 posted on 08/08/2023 6:53:33 PM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: napscoordinator

President Trump is developing a massive ball9t harvesting operation.


52 posted on 08/08/2023 6:53:54 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AN GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Abortion played a big role. President Trump has the right position on Abortion, where the Electorate is.


53 posted on 08/08/2023 6:57:05 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AN GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

And there it is...


54 posted on 08/08/2023 6:57:13 PM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could fight - Romeo company)
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To: napscoordinator

100% correct. It was a stupid measure that was not well thought out. I would have voted “no” on it as well.

Apparently, some Republicans are too dumb to “read the room”.


55 posted on 08/08/2023 6:58:59 PM PDT by Hoboto (I blame Hippies.)
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To: Coronal

The chose is between what is right and what is politically advantageous. Be careful what you wish for. The stakes couldn’t be any higher. There are grave consequences to the choices we make. I can live with my “Yes” vote on issue 1, and be perfectly satisfied with my decision.


56 posted on 08/08/2023 7:00:41 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: OftheOhio

People should pay attention to that LaRose article. He’s running for the senate. Trashed Trump at every opportunity and now it’s Kumbaya, spit.


57 posted on 08/08/2023 7:03:13 PM PDT by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could fight - Romeo company)
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To: Drew68

We ought to just say abortion is a states’ rights issue and we respect the right of each state to decide for itself.


58 posted on 08/08/2023 7:03:33 PM PDT by PATed
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To: OftheOhio
Yes, and I helped them by voting HELL NO

Thanks. It is likely abortion will soon be a protected constitutional right in Ohio. And all they need is a simple majority and they can kill ‘em however they want.

Constitutions are supposed to be hard documents to change, to protect us against the changing wills of the mob. Our constitution should have never been a majority vote regardless of WHO mob rule benefits.

How would we like it if U.S. Constitutional amendments could be passed by popular vote? Fun letting CA and NY rule the nation? Well the urban areas and out of state interests just figured out how they can do it in Ohio.
59 posted on 08/08/2023 7:04:01 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: mmichaels1970

Abortion is not in the Constitutuon, and is up to the States. Gun rights are GOD given and are not subject to laws or referendum, “ Democracy doesn’t Trump the GOD given right to buy a gun.


60 posted on 08/08/2023 7:06:52 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AN GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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