Posted on 07/08/2023 9:40:25 AM PDT by lowbridge
The most powerful federal appeals court in the western United States once again refused to let cities and towns force the homeless off of the streets unless communities provide shelter for them.
Cities large and small across the west coast have tried, and failed, to overturn the higher court's ruling for years, the latest of which came from the Oregon city, Grants Pass.
"We are having a situation where the police were telling homeless people that they couldn't sleep in public or private, and private property," said Grants Pass Mayor Sara Bristol. "And eventually, that kind of boiled down to homeless people feeling like they couldn't find a place to rest where they weren't being harassed."
Bristol said the ruling highlights deep political divisions in her city and county. There are currently a few solutions on the table.
"There's been so much discussion and controversy in the community that we're kind of at a standstill about what to do about it," said Bristol.
This court has dictated Los Angeles' response to the homeless crisis for years. The city was forced to accept encampment because of a staggering shortage of shelters.
But the court was more divided on this case than ever with a growing number of judges appointed by former President Donald Trump lashing out. They claimed the homeless, by occupying public space, are destroying the quality of life in many cities.
"Homelessness is presently the defining public health and safety crisis in the western United States," wrote conservative Judge Milan Smith Jr. "There are stretches of (Los Angeles) where one cannot help but think the government has shirked its most basic responsibilities under the social contract: providing public safety and ensuring that public spaces remain open to all."
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Actually, I was just in California, which has a huge homeless problem. They’re not homeless, they just come there because they can use drugs and collect checks from the city or county in which they roost.
For once I have some praise for Gavin Newsom, because when this decision came down, he empowered the cities to build or contract residences for these people. They can then be offered the choice of either going to one of the residences, or getting out of town.
Those who refused to go to the residences because they can’t take care of three Pitbulls and use all the drugs they want are then simply told that they cannot camp on the street and are evicted.
This has empowered cities all over CA, many of which had already built shelters or hiding, but couldn’t force the “homeless” (formerly known as bums) to use them. Now they can.
-PJ
“Seattle/King County spends multiple billions on homeless causes. There are about 16000 homeless. Someone is raking off of the top, and why isn’t the problem solved?”
Because the “Big Guys” are taking too much of a cut off the top. It’s the usual corruption, mostly by the left, but not exclusively. And...if they ever solve the problems... the people won’t “need” them any more. Hence... the ongoing BS.
Find out where they live and pass out flyers to the homeless and say you can park yourself and pitch your tent in front of their homes and receive goodies! Let’s see how they like It! This is how you fight liberalism and their forced down your throat insanity. You turn the tables on them!
It’s going to take personal action and personal sacrifice...and I have a backhoe if needed too.
Looks like 15 Clinton-Obama-Biden stooges say NAY to vagrancy laws.
Excellent idea.
Hmmmm... does this mean I can camp in the National Parks for free if I tell the Park Rangers I’m homeless?
Use the Lefts own tactics against them.
“New ordinances requiring licenses and inspections for all portable domains. Require permits for open flames. Noise reduction regulations, curfews, sanitation inspections, taxes.
Use the Lefts own tactics against them.”
Since the police don’t enforce criminal law, why would they enforce any of these bylaw infractions ?
agreed, and we have a good number that want to sleep under the bridges and the. Stand on the corners to beg. They are conditioned to being rewarded for doing nothing…
Good idea!
I was just in grants pass this past week, have family that lives there, the homeless were directed by the city to camp in one particular spot across the street from one of the city parks. didnt work, they are spreading out to all the city parks and the river area.
“It can be done”
No, it can’t. Towns are scared to death of being sued into oblivion by the feds. The feds can easily bankrupt a small town if the town or city kicks out the vagrants in favor of public order, public safety, and public health.
I’m sure our city attorney has told the mayor, council and PD that they dare not touch the bums in town and, if they do, be prepared for a multi-million DOJ lawsuit that will bankrupt you. The bums have all the deep-pockets lawfare people on their side and no city can match the attorney fees that are paid by the homeless lawfare groups.
This has been tried many times in many places and the localities always lose.
The hope is that this 9th District case gets to SCOTUS and the Trump judges find in favor of local law and order and give towns and cities the authority to rid themselves of the homeless camps, bums and addicts.
There are many other solutions other than “kicking them out”—including designating areas in town where the homeless can stay.
Put away the negativity—there are always creative solutions if you get out of your own way.
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So we have to set up square-mile legal camps for them? You know they won’t stay there - experience shows that.
Do you live near any of the homeless horror camps?
There are always solutions—creativity is your friend.
The negative attitude can always create many reasons why something is “impossible”.
All you need is one positive solution.
I’m an engineer and solved many tough technical problems in my career.
All I know about social issues is we have spent $25 trillion to eradicate poverty and we have more homeless than ever before. Every time we spend more on “homeless,” guess what we get? More homeless.
OK, Mr. Positivity, name just one solution that has worked. Just one.
Singapore and the Vigilance Committees of San Francisco in the 1850s figured it out.
“Stop feeding them, paying them and eventually they will leave and move back to CA.”
All the homeless in CA are bused in from places like Texas, and since Texas now has the most illegals of any state California and the other 48 states may as well ship all their homeless and illegals into Texas and we can wall off that state and hope the cancer stays contained there.
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