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9th Circuit Court orders cities and towns cannot force homeless people off the street
cbsnews.com ^ | July 6, 2023 | TOM WAIT

Posted on 07/08/2023 9:40:25 AM PDT by lowbridge

The most powerful federal appeals court in the western United States once again refused to let cities and towns force the homeless off of the streets unless communities provide shelter for them.

Cities large and small across the west coast have tried, and failed, to overturn the higher court's ruling for years, the latest of which came from the Oregon city, Grants Pass.

"We are having a situation where the police were telling homeless people that they couldn't sleep in public or private, and private property," said Grants Pass Mayor Sara Bristol. "And eventually, that kind of boiled down to homeless people feeling like they couldn't find a place to rest where they weren't being harassed."

Bristol said the ruling highlights deep political divisions in her city and county. There are currently a few solutions on the table.

"There's been so much discussion and controversy in the community that we're kind of at a standstill about what to do about it," said Bristol. 

This court has dictated Los Angeles' response to the homeless crisis for years. The city was forced to accept encampment because of a staggering shortage of shelters. 

But the court was more divided on this case than ever with a growing number of judges appointed by former President Donald Trump lashing out. They claimed the homeless, by occupying public space, are destroying the quality of life in many cities. 

"Homelessness is presently the defining public health and safety crisis in the western United States," wrote conservative Judge Milan Smith Jr. "There are stretches of (Los Angeles) where one cannot help but think the government has shirked its most basic responsibilities under the social contract: providing public safety and ensuring that public spaces remain open to all."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: 9thcircuit; 9thcircus; grantspass; homeless; milansmithjr
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To: lowbridge

Bet vehicles can. What’s wrong with the sidewalks?


101 posted on 07/08/2023 2:32:09 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (D.I.S.T.R.A.C.T.I.O.N.S.)
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To: Ikeon

EXACTLLY!


102 posted on 07/08/2023 2:32:38 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (D.I.S.T.R.A.C.T.I.O.N.S.)
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To: lowbridge
"The most powerful federal appeals court in the western United States.

I have heard other names for this court.. :)

103 posted on 07/08/2023 2:32:49 PM PDT by unread ("It's not enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what's required." W. Churchill.)
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To: lowbridge

If you don’t move them, they acquire Squatter’s Rights.


104 posted on 07/08/2023 2:50:44 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: lowbridge
I'm willing to try a liberal solution. Open the borders to specific downtrodden peoples, the Korowai people, for example, who are in danger of having their way of life dwindle. Give them driver's licenses and free cookery. Let them enrich us with their culture.

They're cannibals.

105 posted on 07/08/2023 2:55:10 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: markman46

The point is that now they can force these dysfunctionals to go to the shelters or otherwise - get outta town

There was a carrot but no stick. .


106 posted on 07/08/2023 3:36:40 PM PDT by livius
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The solution is so incredibly simple, just incentivize the homeless to move to the majority decision. As the Dissent noted, he could look out the window and see the problem. Ok, so you move the view.

Whoever in Meatball's cadre convinced him to stop the Martha's Vineyard flights intentionally cost him any chance.

107 posted on 07/08/2023 4:18:24 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: Ikeon

How do you know vets are among the Homeless? I used to ask those carrying any Veteran sign to show me a VA ID, and; stated I’ll give you $5. I heard many excuses to include I left it on my dresser at home. I figure some may be vets, but; not that many.


108 posted on 07/08/2023 4:21:50 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: ryderann

There are. They just can no longer be enforced.


109 posted on 07/08/2023 5:18:02 PM PDT by TheConservator (Beware the tyranny of the woke mob. There has never been a greater threat to liberty.)
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To: lowbridge

Anything that goes against all those commie cities in the Left Coast region is just too damned bad. They made their slimy bed, let ‘em sleep in it. To hell with them and their leftist policies. The slime has came home to roost.


110 posted on 07/08/2023 5:24:47 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (The Bible speaks truth! Don't believe it, you do so at your own peril. You'd better be right!!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Let’s put them in those UN interrment camps they have built for all of us who don’t want to belong to the One World Government and want to remain free with liberty, justice, and freedom for all who want it!!


111 posted on 07/08/2023 5:33:41 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (The Bible speaks truth! Don't believe it, you do so at your own peril. You'd better be right!!)
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To: cgbg

I’m sorry, but that makes me laugh. You’ve got a bum in town sleeping on your bench and the solution is to remove the bench? You’ve degraded your local community life to get rid of the bum. So your community is not as nice as it was before, locals and families are deprived of a place to sit.


112 posted on 07/08/2023 5:48:19 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (I don’t like to think before I say something...I want to be just as surprised as everyone else.)
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To: Oorang

Yep, those all worked.

My boss from 1978-1988 told me stories of growing up in the rough parts of St. Louis in the 1930s and 1940s. There were beat cops who walked their beat and carried billy clubs. When they came across a bum sleeping in a doorway or park bench, they gave the bum a sharp love tap on the feet and told him “Keep moving.”

Tough beat cops kept the cities and towns safe, pleasant and livable.


113 posted on 07/08/2023 5:51:01 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (I don’t like to think before I say something...I want to be just as surprised as everyone else.)
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To: lowbridge

They are not entitled to sleep/live on public property and certainly not private property. This needs a USSC ruling.


114 posted on 07/08/2023 5:51:18 PM PDT by vivenne
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To: RetiredArmy

Good solution!


115 posted on 07/08/2023 5:51:28 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (I don’t like to think before I say something...I want to be just as surprised as everyone else.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Or in San Francisco where resturant patrons who sit outside to eat in the resturants outdoor dining areas have homeless people run up abd grab their plates off their tables and run away with a full meal. Doubt they are scrounging in garbage cans.


116 posted on 07/08/2023 5:54:11 PM PDT by vivenne
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To: kaktuskid
Ignore the court, they have no police force.

No, but there's an army of homeless rights advocates with lawyers.

Appeal this ruling to SCOTUS and let them decide.

117 posted on 07/08/2023 6:07:28 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: lowbridge

Ok, everybody on the bus and we’re heading to the judge’s house. Wait on his lawn until he gets more beds in there.


118 posted on 07/08/2023 9:27:16 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: lowbridge

Offer them a ride to Martha’s Vineyard or Cape Cod. Load up the buses. By the time they get there, they’ll be so dope sick, they’re bound to act out right in the faces of elite sh!t-heels.


119 posted on 07/08/2023 10:22:24 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: caww
Yes, completely agree.

I was pointing to a legal way around the edict.

120 posted on 07/09/2023 7:33:36 AM PDT by G Larry (It is RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants by importing Cheap ILLEGAL Labor!)
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