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Engineering Assessment of the OceanGate Titan Failure
The Captains Journal ^ | 25 June 2023 | Herschel Smith

Posted on 06/26/2023 9:42:29 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan

The title of this article is rather broad and audacious, so let’s do what all good engineers would do and set the boundary conditions for the analysis.

All calculations will be approximate given the time invested in this analysis and the purpose thereto. Some assumptions and engineering judgments will be made due to the lack of independently verified information and data. This analysis is meant to be brief and the intended audience is both engineers and non-engineers (for educational purposes). Why am I writing this – out of some sort of ghoulish focus on death? Well, engineers study the ghoulish consequences of the failures of other engineers as part of our profession. Consider the fact that most engineers can explain the cause of the Hyatt Regency walkway collapse (if you can’t, you shouldn’t be an engineer), the Tacoma Narrows bridge failure, the Union Carbide Bhopal disaster, and the space shuttle Challenger disaster (where Morton Thiokol was told to take off their engineer hats and put on their manager hats when considering O-ring temperature certification). This is part of what we do to become better.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; oceangate; oceangateexpeditions; submarine; submersible; titanic
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Huh. Is “squished like a June Bug on a speeding semi’s windshield” an engineering term?


21 posted on 06/26/2023 10:31:17 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Yardstick
the viewport deformed several inches inward.

When the lead engineers on the project are uninspiring 50 year old White men, you don't get anywhere near this far down the rabbit hole without them saying "HELL NO!!!" (and backing it up with quantitative facts).

22 posted on 06/26/2023 10:31:54 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

I did see a video where the assembly team was slopping some adhesive on the titanium ring or the hull using what looked like to be dollar store paint brushes. Ever had bristles come out of a paint brush?

Did not give the impression of a state of the art manufacturing process.


23 posted on 06/26/2023 10:32:39 AM PDT by CodeJockey
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To: Yardstick
Yikes, several inches of deformation. A favorite trick in a nuclear submarine is to tie a string across the engineroom and when diving deep watch the string sag. Steel deforms under pressure. The problem is designing the hull with siffening frames to ensure that compressive hoop stress remains compressive hoop stress and not turn into squish flat stress.
24 posted on 06/26/2023 10:35:05 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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25 posted on 06/26/2023 10:38:44 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: xp38

Who told you it had no viewport? What do you think that plexiglass dome on the front was for?


26 posted on 06/26/2023 10:40:30 AM PDT by dinodino ( )
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To: NWFree

At least the billionaires died doing what they loved:

Spending extravagant money on stupid things to get their kicks
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Exactly my feelings. People want to go see the Titanic…big deal! I could care less. It was a non event as far as I and many, many others, were concerned..


27 posted on 06/26/2023 10:42:07 AM PDT by V V Camp Enari 67-68 ( This clears up a lot of misconceptions.)
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To: NWFree

Except for the poor kid who didn’t want to be there.


28 posted on 06/26/2023 10:46:03 AM PDT by beethovenfan (The REAL Great Reset will be when Jesus returns. )
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To: V_TWIN

That’s part of what is puzzling about this circus. The man who knew what a death trap this was on board.
Got to wonder if he was suicidal but wanted company.


29 posted on 06/26/2023 10:47:15 AM PDT by sjmjax
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To: dinodino

I read it somewhere. Perhaps like Bogie in Casablanca I was misinformed. That said is that viewport usable by everyone on board? From what I also read once you were inside it was a pretty tight squeeze. You couldn’t exactly shift around but again maybe this is wrong as well.


30 posted on 06/26/2023 10:52:50 AM PDT by xp38
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To: webheart

I suppose just skipping this thread didn’t occur to you then. It may be that that others don’t share your level of interest in the topic?


31 posted on 06/26/2023 10:55:53 AM PDT by bigbob (Q)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Later


32 posted on 06/26/2023 10:58:28 AM PDT by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: AndyJackson
First error

Good catch, no serious engineer would make that mistake.

33 posted on 06/26/2023 10:59:37 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Yardstick

Seems that even a few mm would be unacceptable if it is carbon composite deforming, maybe ok for certain metal structures. Inches? And they continued to dive in it????


34 posted on 06/26/2023 10:59:40 AM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: Dennis M.

With all due respect, I don’t think you have to be an
engineer to realize that, and I didn’t sleep at a
Holiday Inn last night.

The guy that built it was as irresponsible as he
could be. Four other people bought the farm on his
word it would be safe.

The controllers alone would have sent me back home on
the day of launch.

Thanks for your post. Good to hear from someone who
is an engineer.


35 posted on 06/26/2023 11:00:59 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: reviled downesdad

Adhesives, if properly selected and applied, would not be a reason for concern. As in Boeing 787, etc.


36 posted on 06/26/2023 11:01:52 AM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: LIConFem

Works for me...


37 posted on 06/26/2023 11:02:00 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Good reading...


38 posted on 06/26/2023 11:04:30 AM PDT by e_castillo
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Problem one... Using carbon fiber in compression loads. It is great for pressure vessels. Compression... Not so much...


39 posted on 06/26/2023 11:06:15 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Yardstick

AND made with carbon fiber which was gotten cheap from Boeing because it was past its expiration date for aircraft manufacture.


40 posted on 06/26/2023 11:07:00 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (The rot of all principle begins with a single compromise.)
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