Posted on 06/22/2023 10:54:16 AM PDT by libh8er
Debris has been found in the search for the missing Titan submersible, reportedly including parts of its outside cover. Dive expert David Mearns told the BBC the president of the Explorers Club - which is connected to the diving and rescue community - says the debris includes "a landing frame and a rear cover from the submersible". The US Coast Guard earlier confirmed a "debris field" had been found within the search area. It was located by a remote-controlled underwater search vehicle (ROV) near the wreck of the Titanic. A US Coast Guard news conference is scheduled for 1500 EST (1900 GMT) on Thursday afternoon. The Titan vessel went missing in a remote area of the North Atlantic on Sunday with a four-day oxygen supply for its crew of five.
Some experts have speculated that it could have suffered a catastrophic implosion as a result of a hull failure. The minivan-sized submersible was owned and operated by the private company OceanGate Expeditions. The firm's co-founder, Guillermo Söhnlein, told the BBC that he believes there may have been an "instantaneous implosion" of the craft. "If that's what happened, that's what would have happened four days ago," he said.
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“ Doesn’t help much but they did, indeed, have a terlet. It was at the rear behind a screen-—for privacy, of course.”
If your definition of a toilet is a plastic bag from Walmart then yes it was all decked out with a big box
Not only can our SOSUS system tell when Ivan sends a ship out, if the ship has sailed before, then our guys know which one it is. There’s a neat little “book” where our guys keep the noise signatures of every thing that sails. If nothing else it keeps us from sinking one of our friends on a bad day. And none of Ivan’s stuff is quiet. One reason is he’s always been too cheap to use rubber mounts or flex hoses on his mechanical/fluid systems.-——not a sea story.
I'm thinking the Navy likely heard the implosion with SOSUS gear. Knowing when the vessel imploded will be an important piece of evidence while reconstructing the accident.
Yea...because 1000+ people before us didn’t touch the thing...
Your envy really is showing—it’s none of your business what they could or didn’t do with their money. I wondered about it, but re-reading your reply, I have no doubt...you’re another lib, trolling around on this site. You’re not happy; you’re miserable.
There are still a number of possibilities. They may have lost power early on and slowly sunk to the bottom. Maybe they sat there, still alive for a time. Awaiting a certain death. We don’t know if the porthole window failed or if the carbon fiber did or if the joints failed. Lots of questions. But they failed my main criteria, which is “performance under pressure”. I expect that of champions.
1000+ or so people doing something drops very short of justification for my own actions. As you see, there isn’t a lot of moral backbone in this Nation.
It seems to me to be an exercise of semantics to justify grave robbing
I have no idea what the builders were calling a toilet but it was part of their description of the inside of the thing. Might have been from Walmart, IKEA, or a 6,000 dollar surplus unit from our DOD? Maybe salvaged from a space shuttle? It should show up in the wreck pics?
Also recovered were parts from Malysian Flight 380.
The soul is eternal. The body is just a collection of organic stuff.
Filmmaker James Cameron and oceanographer Cmdr. Robert Ballard weigh in on the Titan submersible tragedy.
I would like to see an AI simulation of what the implosion looks like.
Before this happened I though the pricing was fair. I would have tried it if they paid me $250,000 but now I wouldn’t get in for less than $5,000,000. I am a risk taker.
Perhaps a bucket.
Here is a good video and article about implosions due to pressure variants.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM-k1zofs58
In this MythBusters episode they were trying to recreate what supposedly happened to a tanker car that was being steamed cleaned on the inside and then sealed up while hot steam was still inside and then exposed to a cooling rain. But what it really showed was the pressure variant between the atmospheric pressure inside the tank vs the atmospheric pressure outside.
While not a 1:1 analogy as to what happened on the Titan, it helps visualize what can happen.
But the pressure variants at the depth they reached, as I understand was like an Empire State building made of lead being on top of every inch of the vessel and ultimately on the humans inside.
Even the tiniest of flaws, cracks, any failures of the hull results in a catastrophic implosion many times greater than this rail car experiment.
Fortunately for the people on board, they likely died instantly. In an instant they would have been squished like a 200 pound man stepping on an ant.
I have more experience with USAF reconnaissance. I worked on cameras used in the SR71. We got clear pictures of license plates on trucks from 80,000 feet. The soviets were always playing catch up.
Satellites can see people around a campfire. A golf ball on a putting green. Or detect the heat signature of someone in a sleeping bag. And that was 40 years ago. It’s hard to imagine what they can see now
That’s pretty good for underwater navigation to that depth, actually. Remember, there’s invisible currents and such. It’s par for the course to dive into the general vicinity of something, then have to search again to get a precise location. I believe you’d need to have a buoy or similar attached to the location to be able to dive more accurately.
Also, you don’t want to come down right on top of the wreck.
The thought is that it was the CEO responsible for that decision - he apparently rejected the supplier’s option for a hatch that was rated to 4000+ meters because he didn’t want the design changed and wouldn’t pay for it.
Recent ones are.
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