Tragedy plus time equals comedy. Too soon?
What is more upsetting is that this prideful, arrogant man who scoffed at safety measures and fired the man who warned him many times about cutting corners, talked his BS into getting people to go along with him. Now the families must grieve losing loved ones… many of whom possibly begged them not to do this.
Inexperienced/incompetent rich guy “pilots” buy ultra expensive high performance private aircraft and kill themselves and their families all the time.
This submarine guy seems to be cut from the same cloth.
Could have viewed the whole ship on Youtube.
Envy is the sole unifying force in the collectivist movement. This incident gives them something to rally around, and show off the quality of their resentment.
the good thing is you don’t have to go to social media and read disgusting comments!!! Just don’t click.
I remember the "Airplane!" movie in 1979 where the TV commentator explains "They bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into..."
Same applies here.
What I found odd about this particular expedition is that there are no windows in the sub. Just a tiny porthole at one end that is at best, 12 inches in diameter, which won't allow you to see much. Besides, with the cramped space they were in, they'd have to climb over each other to get a turn by the porthole.
Apparently they were going to view the Titanic wreckage mainly through TV monitors through cameras mounted on the exterior of the sub. They paid a quarter million dollars for that?
Right?! It's horrible how many jokes about it I've seen on Facebook. Even from some of my own friends. Disgusting.
Who doesn’t feel safe with a Playstation control taking you 2 miles under the sea.
The Diversity non whites did not report the Mishap until 8 hours later to the US Coast Guard and 12 hours to the Canadians .
That Woke DEI in action . What a way to go ,
If you kill the CEO, the rest will get 4 more hours.
If you look at the photos of the Titan, the ballast weights are half circle castings resting on the skids. If there was any way to knock off a few of those weights, the capsule would float to the surface. But alas, if it’s and buts were cherries and nuts, we’d all have a merry Christmas!
Really rough way to go for sure.
What I find amazing is after 100 years the pools on the Titanic are still full of water
“The average person doesn’t have the money to do things like this even if they wanted to.”
OTOH, it doesn’t cost very much for the, “Hold my beer, Bubba, and watch this!” type of (hopefully) death-defying stunt ...
Can anyone here even access OceanGate’s webpage? Appears they’ve taken access away.
http://oceangateexpeditions.com
People are pissed because the details are coming out about the stupidity of the CEO that ultimately killed everyone, and forced the US taxpayer to pay for it.
No matter what the cause, 5 people are likely dead now, and it was completely preventable. That box was a death trap for a dozen reasons - crappy systems, questionable design, lack of testing.
As much as I hate to see the waste of money and resources on a “recovery” effort, I think we should do it - if, for no other reason, to educate everyone on why you shouldn’t cut corners in engineering something that will have humans inside of it. I don’t care about the Logitech (it wasn’t a PS5) controller - it’s the idea that it requires bluetooth, which requires electricity to operate. If the batteries failed unexpectedly, how do you control the submersible? An influencer on a earlier journey said the trip was cut short because they rapidly depleted the battery after 1 hour and needed to use the remaining charge to head to the surface.
They say that they were using Starlink for communication - how? Satellite signals don’t penetrate very far under water, if at all (depending on the frequency). The US Navy and other navies spend tons of money on long antenna systems(30 miles+) to communicate with submerged submarines (ELF/SLF) and those only penetrate to the operating depths of the subs (the exact figures for crush depths are secrets, but they’re nowhere close to the depth of the journey - low thousands of feet). The “ping” that marks the communication to the mother-ship must use some other technology.
They supposedly have 96 hours of air on-board - is that for 5 people? How do they vent the CO2 or scrub it? 96 hours of air seemed reasonable, but what about food and water?
If it was so safe, why did the CEO refuse to submit it for independent testing?
I can go on and on but I’m hard-pressed to think that this contraption was or is ready for commercial use. It’s borderline criminal to sell tickets to ride in it.
Based on the limited information available, here are my theories:
1. Catastrophic physical failure: The carbon fiber developed a crack that expounded under pressure. They’re immediately killed. A crack in the viewport (which was not rated for a depth anywhere near what they’re heading toward) could cause a similar issue, flooding the compartment with no means to remove the water.
2. Catastrophic electrical failure: the batteries depleted and they sunk with no means to bring themselves back up. There are plenty of other subsystems in the electrical system that could have also failed (a bus, the exposed wiring that controls the thrusters and possibly the other systems that can raise the ship) causing the same outcome.
3. Collision/Entanglement - what if the descent wasn’t as controlled as it should be and they crashed into something (like the titanic itself or something in the debris field)? If they “landed” inside the ship unintentionally, they could have damaged the submersible and no longer have the capability to return - or there could be too much debris on top of them to navigate. Same for a rough landing on the sea floor.
Then there are the giant squids ;)
This project was doomed from the moment it hit the water - it was only a question of when. They weren’t prepared for most, if any, emergencies while underway. The limited means of communication only make the situation worse. The more I think about it, the more I you can easily see that are wrong. What if the pilot had a medical episode? Can anyone else operate the submersible?
The entire incident is a case study in incomplete engineering. I hope for the best outcome but the odds are against anything other than maybe recovering this tomb and trying to figure out which of the myriad of bad decisions caused the death of 5 people.
MJ
“This is so upsetting. People are social media are disgusting with the comments that made against these people in the sub because they are billionaires. Our society is demented.”
Yes, some of it envy, but a lot of it is also directed at the owner for his comments about not wanting “50 yr old white males” in his company and about how worrying too mush about safety is a waste of money.
What's worse than losing power and trapped on the bottom, and dying of lack of water and air?
Losing power, bobbing to the surface and dying of lack of water and air because you can't get the hatch open...