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How ex-Confederates spread racist attitudes far and wide after the Civil War
NBC News / Comcast ^ | June 21, 2023 | By Curtis Bunn (D-NBC)

Posted on 06/21/2023 2:16:54 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

A new study outlines how white people’s migration during and after the Civil War, from the Confederate South to the West, bolstered white supremacy and institutional racism in non-slave states, helping create the vast racial disparities that exist today nationwide.

Five researchers from separate colleges collaborated on the study, called “Confederate Diaspora,” to compile and study census data that tracked the migration to the West of white Americans, including 60,000 former plantation owners. The former Southerners took on local positions of authority, like police officers, clergy and politicians, giving them influence to create a post-Civil War culture that continued to oppress Black people even after slavery had ended.

This results in structural and systemic racism in almost every walk of life today — education, housing, jobs, health care and wealth, among other areas — that continues to hamper progress for Black people, according to a working paper by the National Bureau of Economic Research this month.

The former Confederates “continued to transmit norms to their children and non-Southern neighbors,” the researchers wrote, “shaping racial inequities in labor, housing, and policing.”

Researcher Patrick Testa, an assistant professor of economics at Tulane University in New Orleans, said the impact of the Confederates on other parts of the country was deep and long-lasting.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


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To: Texas resident

Educate yourself....read about reconstruction and 1877.


121 posted on 06/21/2023 5:27:34 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: ro_dreaming

That’s why the whole idea of Slave Reparations needs to be looking to the Democratic Party as the ones who will do all the funding if it ever passes. Without the Democratic party the barbaric institution of Slavery could’ve ended decades earlier in the USA.


122 posted on 06/21/2023 5:48:49 PM PDT by Degaston
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To: DiogenesLamp
The bad old days:
I was born during in 1932 at the start of the depression in Maryland in a white family (although my mother's grandmother had black ancestry and brought six slaves into her marriage including her half sister). My mother worked, and I was raise during the day by a negro nurse whom I loved like a mother. I remember crying uncontrollable at her funeral when I was thirteen. When I think of her tears come to my eyes. At the diner table we children were subjected to all sorts of rules, but I would be excused to the kitchen where I was given a dish cloth and told, "here child, make yourself useful" and felt accepted. What have we become?
123 posted on 06/21/2023 6:18:13 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: x
Terribly wrong there. A century ago the New England Yankees were penny pinching conservatives.

Of the "hoi polloi" this is true, but of the "elite" "robber baron" class, this is not true. The elite wanted government money and government laws to help them make money.

The Hamiltonian view of government is that it should be used as a tool to increase the prosperity of businesses. That government should not be neutral, but activist in favor of business and industry.

Yes, the common folk of New England were known for frugality and hard work, but the captains of industry may have been stingy with their own money, but were very welcoming of any government spending that helped them make money.

Urban political machines became favorable towards federal spending when it was offered, but virtually all the urban machine politicians were Democrats, and in those days, Republicans could still get elected in Boston, New York, Chicago, and other cities.

There is a good argument that urbanization is inherently socialist and desirous of large taxation and heavy spending. Yes, the New York City government was run by Democrats in this era, but the corruption they engendered tended to be of the local variety, not the national variety.

It's like the difference between a street gang and the Mafia.

124 posted on 06/21/2023 8:21:51 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: cowboyusa
The North wanted to extend Free Labor into the Terrritories.

The North wanted black people kept out of the territories period. They wanted them neither as slaves nor as free men. They just wanted white people in the territories. Plenty enough has been written from that era to show this is true.

The South wanted to extend Slavery into them.

That's the spin we hear nowadays, but the reality is there would never have been any significant slave presence in the territories because there was little to no profit in attempting to use slaves in the territories.

But the North was gaining more States and Population.

Which is why all the tax laws and the federal subsidies favored them, and which is why they wanted to keep things that way.

The War was about the West.

The war was about money. Only money, and nothing but money.

125 posted on 06/21/2023 8:25:34 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Were 1960s labor unions Democrat campaign funders? Are 2020s labor unions Democrat campaign funders/

I'm not sure why you are so fascinated with the 1960s. The Changes started before the 60s. Labor unions started in the late 1800s due primarily to the troubles created in the coal mining industry by the industrialists mainly in New York setting the price of coal at such a point that it made the mines barely profitable.

Yes, New York controlled the price of coal and also stirred up other unrest which led to the eventual formation of unions.

126 posted on 06/21/2023 8:30:14 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Bonemaker
It's my understanding that the actual "Lone Ranger" was a black man who was highly successful at arresting or killing bad guys. I used to know his name, but I have forgotten.
127 posted on 06/21/2023 8:32:45 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

You may be thinking of Bass Reeves.


128 posted on 06/21/2023 8:34:46 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's not a government. It's a criminal enterprise. Fear it, but do not respect it.)
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To: Hiddigeigei
At the diner table we children were subjected to all sorts of rules, but I would be excused to the kitchen where I was given a dish cloth and told, "here child, make yourself useful" and felt accepted. What have we become?

We have become the victims of people who aggravate racial strife because it allows them to attain power and thereby wealth. I think it was Booker T Washington that said there were a lot of people making money off the problems of black people, and for that reason, none of the problems would get solved.

129 posted on 06/21/2023 8:36:36 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

George Patton’s grandather and great uncles were Confederates who migrated to Los Angeles after the Civil War.

Don’t know why we need another of these Hate the South threads but I guess some freepers need their dose of Wokeism.


130 posted on 06/21/2023 8:37:11 PM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: ClearCase_guy
You may be thinking of Bass Reeves.

I believe that is right. That name sounds familiar. Thanks for reminding me.

131 posted on 06/21/2023 8:37:27 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
The South violated the States Rights of the North thru the Fugitive Slave Act, and the Dred Scott Decision, which tried to extend Slavery into the North. The conflict was inevitable, and it started in Kansas, in the West.
Also, the Confederacy did not include a Bill of Rights, so people were basically property of the State. Then the Confederate Government Nationalized whole industries. Texas would have left, and become a separate Country again.
132 posted on 06/21/2023 8:38:10 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM!)
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To: Pelham

Good to see you posting. I haven’t seen you for awhile. It worries me when I don’t see some of my favorite commenters for long periods of time. :)


133 posted on 06/21/2023 8:38:51 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Midwesterner53

No fair injecting facts ‘n stuff.

There’s an interesting site that collected some of that inconvenient history.

http://slavenorth.com/


134 posted on 06/21/2023 8:42:53 PM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: cowboyusa
The South violated the States Rights of the North thru the Fugitive Slave Act...

This demonstrates how badly you have learned your history. The Northern states had an obligation to return all escaped slaves. It was a *LAW* written directly into the US Constitution.

Look up Article IV, Section 2 and read what it says.

It says fugitive slaves must be returned. Refusing to do that is violating constitutional law.

The "fugitive slave law" passed by congress merely said the same thing as Article IV, Section 2 said.

and the Dred Scott Decision, which tried to extend Slavery into the North.

The Dred Scott Decision was never reversed and was a proper interpretation of the law at the time that decision was handed down. The Dred Scott Decision was set aside by the 13th amendment.

George Washington routinely kept slaves in Pennsylvania long after Pennsylvania declared itself "free".

135 posted on 06/21/2023 8:43:23 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Ah, but the JACKSONIAN School, which Trump agrees with had 4 pillars: The Union, Small Government, a hatred of Trusts and huge Combinations, and a f.p. of I will leave you alone but if you attack me I will wipe you off the face of the Earth. I’m a Jacksonian.


136 posted on 06/21/2023 8:44:34 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM!)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Disagree with that. The Confederacy trampled on the rights of it's states, and formed the first War Socialist Government. It likely would have broken up into smaller Confederacy's. Texas had nothing in common with South Carolina.
137 posted on 06/21/2023 8:48:07 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM!)
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To: DiogenesLamp

And Jackson was a son of the South. MANY Southerners fought for the Union.


138 posted on 06/21/2023 8:49:57 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM!)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Thanks. I’m around, maybe not posting as often though.


139 posted on 06/21/2023 8:51:34 PM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: cowboyusa
Disagree with that.

You can disagree with it all you like, but the truth is the truth. Article IV, Section 2 of the US constitution requires the return of fugitive slaves.

140 posted on 06/21/2023 8:59:17 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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