Posted on 06/21/2023 2:16:54 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
Educate yourself....read about reconstruction and 1877.
That’s why the whole idea of Slave Reparations needs to be looking to the Democratic Party as the ones who will do all the funding if it ever passes. Without the Democratic party the barbaric institution of Slavery could’ve ended decades earlier in the USA.
Of the "hoi polloi" this is true, but of the "elite" "robber baron" class, this is not true. The elite wanted government money and government laws to help them make money.
The Hamiltonian view of government is that it should be used as a tool to increase the prosperity of businesses. That government should not be neutral, but activist in favor of business and industry.
Yes, the common folk of New England were known for frugality and hard work, but the captains of industry may have been stingy with their own money, but were very welcoming of any government spending that helped them make money.
Urban political machines became favorable towards federal spending when it was offered, but virtually all the urban machine politicians were Democrats, and in those days, Republicans could still get elected in Boston, New York, Chicago, and other cities.
There is a good argument that urbanization is inherently socialist and desirous of large taxation and heavy spending. Yes, the New York City government was run by Democrats in this era, but the corruption they engendered tended to be of the local variety, not the national variety.
It's like the difference between a street gang and the Mafia.
The North wanted black people kept out of the territories period. They wanted them neither as slaves nor as free men. They just wanted white people in the territories. Plenty enough has been written from that era to show this is true.
The South wanted to extend Slavery into them.
That's the spin we hear nowadays, but the reality is there would never have been any significant slave presence in the territories because there was little to no profit in attempting to use slaves in the territories.
But the North was gaining more States and Population.
Which is why all the tax laws and the federal subsidies favored them, and which is why they wanted to keep things that way.
The War was about the West.
The war was about money. Only money, and nothing but money.
I'm not sure why you are so fascinated with the 1960s. The Changes started before the 60s. Labor unions started in the late 1800s due primarily to the troubles created in the coal mining industry by the industrialists mainly in New York setting the price of coal at such a point that it made the mines barely profitable.
Yes, New York controlled the price of coal and also stirred up other unrest which led to the eventual formation of unions.
You may be thinking of Bass Reeves.
We have become the victims of people who aggravate racial strife because it allows them to attain power and thereby wealth. I think it was Booker T Washington that said there were a lot of people making money off the problems of black people, and for that reason, none of the problems would get solved.
George Patton’s grandather and great uncles were Confederates who migrated to Los Angeles after the Civil War.
Don’t know why we need another of these Hate the South threads but I guess some freepers need their dose of Wokeism.
I believe that is right. That name sounds familiar. Thanks for reminding me.
Good to see you posting. I haven’t seen you for awhile. It worries me when I don’t see some of my favorite commenters for long periods of time. :)
No fair injecting facts ‘n stuff.
There’s an interesting site that collected some of that inconvenient history.
This demonstrates how badly you have learned your history. The Northern states had an obligation to return all escaped slaves. It was a *LAW* written directly into the US Constitution.
Look up Article IV, Section 2 and read what it says.
It says fugitive slaves must be returned. Refusing to do that is violating constitutional law.
The "fugitive slave law" passed by congress merely said the same thing as Article IV, Section 2 said.
and the Dred Scott Decision, which tried to extend Slavery into the North.
The Dred Scott Decision was never reversed and was a proper interpretation of the law at the time that decision was handed down. The Dred Scott Decision was set aside by the 13th amendment.
George Washington routinely kept slaves in Pennsylvania long after Pennsylvania declared itself "free".
Ah, but the JACKSONIAN School, which Trump agrees with had 4 pillars: The Union, Small Government, a hatred of Trusts and huge Combinations, and a f.p. of I will leave you alone but if you attack me I will wipe you off the face of the Earth. I’m a Jacksonian.
And Jackson was a son of the South. MANY Southerners fought for the Union.
Thanks. I’m around, maybe not posting as often though.
You can disagree with it all you like, but the truth is the truth. Article IV, Section 2 of the US constitution requires the return of fugitive slaves.
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