Posted on 06/08/2023 5:29:29 AM PDT by dennisw
Members of the Russian elite are turning against the Ukraine war, Bloomberg reported. They best they can hope for is losing without humiliation, the report said. However Putin shows no sign of wanting to end the conflict, it said.
Many members of Russia's elite are growing doubtful about the ability of their president, Vladimir Putin, to win the war in Ukraine, Bloomberg reported.
The best they can hope for is a "frozen" conflict or a loss in which Russia isn't humilated, the report said.
Despite this deepening gloom, Putin shows no sign of wishing to end the war, according to Bloomberg.
The outlet cited seven people with knowledge of the situation who asked not to be identified given the seriousness of the issues.
It said that many in the upper echelons of Russian politics and business are tired of the war and want it to end.
Five sources told Bloomberg that while no one is willing to "stand up" to Putin over the invasion, belief in his authority has been shaken.
"It is really surprising how widespread among the Russian elite became the idea of a chance that Putin won't win this war," Kirill Rogov, a former Russian government advisor who left the country after the invasion, told Bloomberg.
It is unclear what a victory would look like for Russia, but two sources told Bloomberg they hoped Putin would try and claim a "Pyrrhic victory" on the basis of land in Ukraine that Russia already occupies.
Alexandra Prokopenko, a former Russian journalist and central bank advisor, told Bloomberg that "'the best they hope for is that Russia will lose without humiliation."
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Absolutely, all depending your perspective.
The empty barrels sure are making a lot of noise the last few days. That normally means The Zelensky is being drop kicked by Putin :)
Denny, didn’t I tell you to go away until you begin making sense?
In a video posted yesterday the mercenary commander Prigozhin several times referred to his country as the USSR.
I am respecting his preferred name for his country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J7_mWf0ex8
Drivel
Hey Ivan, Yuri, Alexi or whatever your real name is. She was speaking sarcastically about Soviets. If you were an American you would of understood that.
And, the empty barrels are ANGRY!!!
You are terminally ignorant for making that comment
Russia is winning and you are a prevaricator.
If that happens its a big win for China, who will dominate most of those pieces — and Central Asia as well.
Also, Russia has the bomb and would probably rather use it than let the country break up.
A country as close to falling apart as ours is shouldn’t take breaking up other countries lightly.
That’s likely to be our future too.
Many in Russia’s elite no longer believe Putin can win the Ukraine war
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...too bad everyone else with brain cells believes Russia can.
no you are
Russia is not winning and the only people who claim it is are Russian flacks and morons like Col McGregor who have largely been discredited. I do not know of any respectable source that says anything else.
Our country is not falling apart. To be honest I would love to lose New England, New York city and California. But that will not happen.
Foreigner, when are you going to fight?
Excuse me, when are you going to fight, or are all you Neocons cowards?
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