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Oh, the look on Kirby's face when he's answer the question. He's not a good a liar.

This whole proxy war has been a lie from the beginning.

1 posted on 06/07/2023 2:47:22 PM PDT by Kazan
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Very strange war.

Imagine London in 1940: bombers fly over the city and rain down destruction. Some blame the German Luftwaffe. Hitler denies this and says that the RAF is bombing London. There’s just no way to tell.

Did Russia blow up it’s pipeline? Or was it Ukraine? Did Russia blow up this dam? Or was it Ukraine?

If you can’t tell which side is blowing stuff up, then you’re watching a pretty odd war. In past wars, it’s been pretty obvious who is doing what to whom.


2 posted on 06/07/2023 2:53:43 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (“You want it one way, but it's the other way”)
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Seems about as logical as inventing a spike protein viral bioweapon and attacking one’s own citizens with it, and as illogical as inventing a fake “vaccine” full of experimental damaging spike proteins, and requiring citizens, even low risk children, to take it.


4 posted on 06/07/2023 2:57:58 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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Russia did not blow up the pipeline or the dam, Ukraine.


5 posted on 06/07/2023 2:58:05 PM PDT by stockpirate (Where Justice Ends Tyranny Begins...Repression Breeds Violence)
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His whole facial affect looks like he’s puckering up to suck ...something. The eyes give it away- wasn’t much of an admiral either.


8 posted on 06/07/2023 3:00:12 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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BOOM!
9 posted on 06/07/2023 3:00:37 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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So you assert that Russian Army security at the dam was so lame that they allowed Ukrainian engineers to place a few tons of charges to blow the dam? Right under their noses?

Okay.


10 posted on 06/07/2023 3:01:10 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J7_mWf0ex8

This video features:

1. A Russian soldier claiming credit for Russia blowing the dam

2. Prigozhin several times referring to Russia as the “USSR”

Care to disavow either one?


11 posted on 06/07/2023 3:03:37 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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If a country wants to flood a downstream area, it can simply open the dam it controls, instead of destroying it. Just like it can close a pipeline instead of destroying it.


13 posted on 06/07/2023 3:07:50 PM PDT by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum )
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It seems very logical.

It’s been clear from the beginning that Ukraine was going to cut off water to Crimea. By blowing the dam Russia cuts off water to Crimea - which would have happened anyway - and to much of Ukraine.

And it delays any attack across the river for a month or more. It’s clear that Ukraine was threatening a river crossing. Blowing the dam eliminated that.


15 posted on 06/07/2023 3:14:57 PM PDT by jdege
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Kirby never told the truth in his life.


18 posted on 06/07/2023 3:19:14 PM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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“Does it seem believable to you that Russia would destroy a dam and flood ethnic Russian villages, and cut off a water supply to Crimea? I mean, that doesn’t seem logical.”

It’s a much more logical proposition when you include the information that the flooded area was the focus of one successful Ukrainian counterattack last fall, and one of the likely targets for the new counteroffensive.


20 posted on 06/07/2023 3:21:25 PM PDT by Boogieman
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There’s a reporter who will lose their credentials for the WH...


23 posted on 06/07/2023 3:32:31 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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“We’ve come to no conclusions on this. We’re working with the Ukrainians. We’ll try to get as much information as we can,” said Kirby.

Some reliable source of information. The Biden Administration is filled with assclowns and freaks.

26 posted on 06/07/2023 3:59:29 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("How did you go bankrupt?” Bill asked. "Two ways," Mike said. "Gradually and then suddenly." )
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LLOL!

The neoconneds on this thread are spinning like tops! They're gonna get the high-speed wobs.

27 posted on 06/07/2023 4:17:43 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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What Zaporizhzia doink?


28 posted on 06/07/2023 4:19:05 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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Western mainstream media:

The Russians blew up their own NordStream pipeline.

The Kremlin ordered a drone strike on the Kremlin.

Russia blew up the Nova Kakhovka dam to destroy the defences they had spent over half a year building and deny water supplies to Crimea.


33 posted on 06/07/2023 4:35:54 PM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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Personally, the gross incompetence and failure of the Russian Army control and command structure has been overwhelming since the February 2022.

Russia uses a very heavy hand with its rockets and artillery approach to war.

Could it have been Ukrainians? Yes, but I would wager Russians or Wagner's or others were definitely involved and their goals were short term associated with destruction of Ukrainian infrastructure and agriculture.

If Russia is not careful, they will give Crimea to Ukraine. Actually, if the water dries up, the Crimean agriculture fails, and the bridge from Russia is destroyed even more, the people of Crimea will have to leave or starve.

42 posted on 06/07/2023 5:02:57 PM PDT by Robert357
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“It seems about as logical as blowing up one’s own pipeline, doesn’t it?”

Big deal. Our turd president has essentially blown up all our pipelines and other energy resources.


48 posted on 06/07/2023 5:38:35 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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“barely got a history degree” John Kirby


49 posted on 06/07/2023 5:43:01 PM PDT by Rural_Michigan
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I think Ukraine blew up the dam. I knew it as soon as all the deep state mouthpieces came out blaming Russia before there was any evidence. They do it all the time. If I want to know the truth I just look at the propaganda the media puts out and believe the exact opposite. That strategy has been very accurate over the years.
56 posted on 06/07/2023 7:27:23 PM PDT by Rdct29 (The Democrats Are The New Nazi Party )
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