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Kissinger at 100 — the man who lost Vietnam
startribune ^ | 05/23/2023 | Stephen B. Young

Posted on 05/23/2023 11:42:37 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

Henry Kissinger turns 100 on May 27. How should he be remembered?

For me, he is the American who, more than any other individual, lost the Vietnam War.

But today Kissinger is a demigod among our foreign policy elite. National Security Adviser and Secretary of State under Presidents Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford, Kissinger ranks in the top echelon of notable Americans. On issues like the war in Ukraine and even artificial intelligence, our elite wants to know: "What does Henry recommend?"

Kissinger's rise to eminence began with his secret negotiation of the 1973 Paris Peace Agreement ostensibly ending the Vietnam War with peace and freedom for the people of South Vietnam.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 100yearsold; boogieman; demidevil; demigod; justanotherdemocrat; kissinger; lost; man; traitor; vietnam; vietnamwar
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To: Williams

Yes, that is correct.

Alternate history being written.


41 posted on 05/23/2023 1:39:47 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I’ll never understand why the Paris Peace Talks drug on for years, then we got nothing. I always believed we should have leveled the port facilities at Haiphong and mined the harbor, then seriously blockaded North Vietnam. That, or leave before 55,000 of us were killed.


42 posted on 05/23/2023 1:53:24 PM PDT by Spok (“Winston, how many fingers am I holding up?”)
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To: Williams

Afghanistan is the latest leftist unnecessary surrender.


43 posted on 05/23/2023 1:57:41 PM PDT by nicollo ("I said no!")
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To: BerryDingle

“I thought Cronkite declared the war “lost” all by himself after Tet.”

There was some famous reporter that was in Vietnam right after the first battle (Ia Drang Valley), with the choppers landing behind him with the troops off loading and he said something like “While the battle was a victory, it remains to be seen how long the mothers and wives of the killed and wounded young men will endure their boys fighting in this foreign land.”


44 posted on 05/23/2023 2:12:38 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: Sir_Humphrey

Ok comrade.


45 posted on 05/23/2023 2:13:33 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to se)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Only the good die young, so it’s no surprise that Kissinger is still alive.

As for why don’t they blame Nixon? They shouldn’t even blame Kissinger. The Democrats lost Vietnam and Nixon was left with the mess of cleaning up their stupidity and ignorance.

As for foreign policy, Kissinger was a lightweight when it came to diplomacy. Thankfully Nixon was the brains behind Nixon’s foreign policy, not Kissinger. Nixon bridged the enormous gap between China and the United States and started the first strategic arms negotiations that eventually led to the fall of the Soviet Union. Kissinger was a fool who stood in when needed for photo-ops.


46 posted on 05/23/2023 2:16:31 PM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: Williams

You didn’t read the article, did you?


47 posted on 05/23/2023 2:23:13 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to se)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Johnson, McNamara, and Congress lost that war.

Johnson tried to micromanage the war from the Oval Office,
and when Nixon came in every time he made an advance toward
victory, Congress would demand a ceasefire to negotiate
peace talks. At that point the North would resupply and
get ready for the next round of attacks.

Between the those three entities, it probably cost us
40,000 of the lives we lost.


48 posted on 05/23/2023 2:43:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I was one of 550,000 Americans in uniform in Vietname in 66-67. LBJ & Whiz Kids had the same philosophy on Vietnam as the war on Poverty.... Throw enough money at it and you are bound to win.

I am no fan of Nixon or Kissinger... Voted for Libertarian Dick Gregory in 68, LP in 72. But Kissinger and Nixon cannot be blamed for Vietnam. They can be blamed for China.


49 posted on 05/23/2023 2:45:29 PM PDT by spintreebob (ki .h g)
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To: spintreebob

If you voted for Dick Gregory and his Freedom and Peace Party in 1968 and then LP party in 72, you were radically far left.


50 posted on 05/23/2023 2:54:22 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

This POS knowingly left American POW’s to rot. I hope he rots in hell.


51 posted on 05/23/2023 2:55:58 PM PDT by New Perspective (As Leonard Cohen said once in an interview, “You won’t like what comes after America”)
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To: 21twelve
Confirming the “Domino Theory” that the leftists say was an imaginary fear.

The only thing wrong with the Domino Theory is that except for Laos and Cambodia, the dominoes didn't fall in Southeast Asia, but elsewhere. Within a year of the fall of Saigon, Angola, Mozambique and Guinea-Bissau went Communist, as did Grenada and Nicaragua in 1979. In 1983, Surinam entered the Soviet bloc for a short sojourn--the high tide of Soviet imperialism--before things started to go sour for the Evil Empire.

52 posted on 05/23/2023 3:05:46 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: ansel12

Abolishing most Alphabet Agencies is extremist?


53 posted on 05/23/2023 3:08:52 PM PDT by spintreebob (ki .h g)
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To: Fiji Hill

The argument on the dominoes is how much had been altered and changed from 1950 to 1975 in the world/Communist situation in Asia.


54 posted on 05/23/2023 3:09:07 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: spintreebob

Well, it was your platform.

“By 1968 the group gained national recognition and dedicated their efforts towards achieving their platforms of a socialist, democratic, feminist, and racially equal society. They organized mass groups and rallies to protest and support political candidates to reform US political institutions. They formed Tenant unions for renters. They organized food co-ops, free health clinics and newsletters for the public and their followers.”


55 posted on 05/23/2023 3:10:43 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

LBJ and McNamara had just a little bit to do with it, one always believed.

Throw Westmoreland in for mention if you want to.


56 posted on 05/23/2023 3:36:23 PM PDT by OKSooner (Let us eat, drink, and be merry...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

He was the mentor of Klaus Schwab.


57 posted on 05/23/2023 4:21:50 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: ifinnegan

You seriously think it was a good decision to go into either place? You seriously think it was worth the loss of life?


58 posted on 05/23/2023 4:41:20 PM PDT by Sir_Humphrey (The “only Trumpers” are just as damaging to the conservative cause as are the “never Trumpers”)
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To: ansel12

Yes, and JFK and Harriman arranged the murder of the Catholic Diem brothers. The US did that. and 16K troops


59 posted on 05/23/2023 5:29:37 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Sir_Humphrey

Good idea to stop communism, yes.


60 posted on 05/23/2023 6:10:15 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to se)
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