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NY Gov. Kathy Hochul ‘test-marketing’ a ban on all tobacco sales
nypost.com ^ | April 22, 2023 | Rich Calder

Posted on 04/22/2023 12:57:26 PM PDT by lowbridge

The pro-legal weed Hochul administration is quietly trying to fire up support for a complete ban on the sale of tobacco products in New York, The Post has learned.

The state Health Department commissioned a new survey aimed at gauging support for an all-out prohibition — despite Gov. Hochul’s failure to secure support from state legislators to include a ban on menthol cigarettes and other flavored tobacco products in the yet-to-be-approved state budget.

“What is your opinion about a policy that would end the sale of all tobacco products in New York within 10 years?” were among the questions asked last week in the “New York Local Opinion Leaders Survey,” examined by the Post.

Another asks: “What is your opinion about a policy that would ban the sale of all tobacco products to those born after a certain date? For example, those born after the year 2010 or later would never be sold tobacco.”

The poll also solicited input on whether there’s backing for other tobacco-related measures, including capping the number of retailers who can sell “products in a community” and prohibiting its sales near schools.

The survey, conducted by nonprofit research organization RTI International, was distributed to “community leaders” statewide, including “county legislators and county directors of public health,” according to an April 13 memo to prospective participants from Jennifer Lee, director of the Health Department’s Bureau of Tobacco Control. 

It’s obvious the Health Department is “test marketing” potential new smoking policies and such surveys are typically funded by taxpayers but through private companies, think tanks, or political campaigns, an Albany insider said.

“An outright ban being considered … is all new territory,” the insider said. “And I’ve never seen anything like this where [the state] uses this kind of focus grouping, alliance building, momentum building.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: ban; hochul; newyork; tobacco
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To: hardspunned

“The state is probably raking in 5 or 6 bucks per pack in taxes.”

That is why they want to ban tobacco over time—gives them time to find some other suckers to tax.


21 posted on 04/22/2023 1:31:12 PM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: lowbridge

They want to eliminate flavored tobacco so the kids won’t want to use it, but I heard the other day that a bunch of Chicago school kids got sick and had to go to the hospital because they overdosed on cannabis gummis.


22 posted on 04/22/2023 1:31:55 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: ameribbean expat

All the weed heads brag about the therapeutic use of marijuana. Very few people are aware of the therapeutic effects of nicotine. It has been used to treat Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, ADHD, depression, obesity, etc. It has also been shown to increase mental acuity and verbal skill (quite the opposite of weed 😉)


23 posted on 04/22/2023 1:32:53 PM PDT by Right Brother
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To: lowbridge

Because it worked so well for alcohol.

Tobacco products are to be banned but cannabis will be sold openly. Another awesomely stupid idea from the awesomely stupid Governor of New York State.


24 posted on 04/22/2023 1:34:15 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: Mark17

The 5 families became organized and gained incredible wealth and power during prohibition, no doubt they will bootleg cigarettes if this ban goes thru.


25 posted on 04/22/2023 1:38:05 PM PDT by srmanuel
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To: lowbridge

Is she planning on telling the sovereign Indian nations in the State, that they can’t produce and sell their own tobacco products sold on their own property?


26 posted on 04/22/2023 1:41:43 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: cgbg

I wonder how much they tax the dopers where it’s legal? You’d think the state chiseling ba$tards would promote all taxable addictive revenue enhancers.


27 posted on 04/22/2023 1:47:40 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: lowbridge

When you have to take over from a Mafioso Crime Lord Tyrant, rest assured the users and takers from Buffalo, Albany and NYC have your back.

Question. When the actual tax payers, movers and shakers finally figure out they cannot support your giveaway largesse anymore, where you gonna go then?


28 posted on 04/22/2023 1:47:58 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: lowbridge

Those decorative tobacco plants are going to be worth a mint.


29 posted on 04/22/2023 1:50:27 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again," )
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To: lowbridge
Banning sales is one thing, banning use is something entirely different. If a law is passed banning selling cigarettes in NY, cigarette users will simply buy online from sites like www.usa-cigarettes.com - or buy out of state.
30 posted on 04/22/2023 1:50:49 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: hardspunned

Oh they will find something else to tax - Water (Kaiser Klaus already pegging that) and air, because they can.


31 posted on 04/22/2023 1:51:13 PM PDT by Shady (The Force of Liberty must prevail for the sake of our Children and Grandchildren...)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Great. The five families need another product line…

Ya got me laughing!!

32 posted on 04/22/2023 1:51:40 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: lowbridge

The people of New York deserve all she will bring to them!


33 posted on 04/22/2023 1:54:26 PM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: JesusIsLord

🙂


34 posted on 04/22/2023 1:58:00 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. )
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To: lowbridge

Where are they gonna get there blunts??


35 posted on 04/22/2023 1:58:12 PM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: lowbridge

In the NY market, they are running radio ads about how, somehow, menthol cigarettes are targeting black people and making them die. And, how smoking menthol cigarettes is bad for you. They also mention that they certainly don’t want to ban all cigarettes.


36 posted on 04/22/2023 2:02:46 PM PDT by nesnah (Infringe - act so as to limit or undermine [something]; encroach on)
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To: lowbridge

well, pot’s legal to smoke now, so...


37 posted on 04/22/2023 2:10:16 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: dpetty121263

“The people of New York deserve all she will bring to them!”

I’m a “people of New York “ and I don’t deserve anything this bitch brings us, so screw you.


38 posted on 04/22/2023 2:18:51 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smart-ass disorder. )
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To: dpetty121263

“The people of New York deserve all she will bring to them!”

That’s harsh. My family has been in New York since the 1700s, and you’ll never find a more conservative Christian group of people in the country. Hochul is THEIR governor, too.

Once you’re out of NYC, you’re more likely to meet conservatives that liberals. When I visit friends and family in western NY I see more Congrats flags, and heard more country music, than I do here in TN


39 posted on 04/22/2023 2:36:09 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: RomanSoldier19

Thanks for the link. I don’t use any non-over-the-counter drugs, but I was curious.


40 posted on 04/22/2023 2:50:08 PM PDT by TChad (Progressives are in favor of removing healthy sex organs from children. Conservatives oppose this.)
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